I posted about brewing a mojito tripel awhile ago but can't find it (might have been before the site switch) and I'm revisiting the opinions and experience of others because I'm actually going to brew it now. I'm curious about how to use mint and lime in order to utilize their full flavor and aroma potential. I figured I would throw them in at flameout and perhaps some in secondary. I also plan to use Jaggery in this tripel for my additional fermentables - has anyone brewed with this? It's a sugar derived from palm trees and is supposed to give a nice sweetness while providing a silky yet dry character to the mouthfeel (or so I've read). Will post recipe when I get home in a few hours for flavor profile references and such. Thanks! Kyle
A quote from a HBT post from 2007 on adding mint: "Boil mint with water. Add a couple drops to a sample that you take out of secondary, use that to determine the right ratio. Then add that ratio at bottling time. If you've done it a few times, you might add it right to the boil, but absent other information and experience, for a first attempt, I really don't think any other approach can really be justified. Add it at bottling time. Once you've done that and found acceptable results, THEN, start trying "dry minting" and adding it to the boil and other stuff. You may find awesome stuff. But until you have the experience under your belt, add it at bottling time."
Sounds cool...the sweetness of a tripel seems like it would be perfecto for a mojito-like beer. Not sure how to use mint and lime best, though, and I've never heard of Jaggery. Maybe kaffir leaves and/or zest for the lime? Maybe boil up mint leaves with your priming sugar? You could muddle mint and rack onto it for secondary, but I'm not sure how one would go about sanitizing it...muddle with a little bit of vodka or white rum?
i've tried to pasteurize mint leaves by heating to 160-180 for 20 mins then cooling and adding to secondary. the results were... not good. there was a boiled vegetable taste to the beer. i believe the mint flavor is an oil (eg peppermint oil), which will solubilize in alcohol much better than in water. i plan to make this beer again later this year by steeping the mint leaves in vodka for at least one month before adding to secondary. the alcohol in the vodka will sanitize the leaves so you can add without infection risk. im expecting better results...! good luck.
I think I remember Ryane mentioning using Jaggery a bunch; might want to ask him. Turbinado contributes some slightly rummy flavors, so it might be an alternative. If I were using mint, I'd make some kind of a potion with vodka or use mint extract as mentioned above, just make sure its the right type of mint. Regarding the lime, you could just zest it and add at the end of the boil, and if needed add pasteurized lime juice in secondary or at kegging to taste (Haven't done much with juice).
If bottling, would you have to adjust priming sugar down some to account for natural sugars in the fruit juice?
Short answer, yes. I tend to go for the most "foolproof" ways of doing things, so if I were adding the lime juice, I'd add to secondary and let it ferment out, then rack to the bucket and prime with the normal amount of sugar. If you could calculate an accurate sugar amount contributed by the lime juice, then you would do exactly what you mentioned. If kegging, you could essentially back sweeten with the lime juice to taste, then force carb to your desired CO2 level, although if bottling you'd have to adjust your CO2 levels to allow for any referementation in the bottle if they are stored above fridge temps.
I haven't used jaggery, but I have used piloncillo, which is similar. It doesn't add any sweetness, because the sugar (the sweet part) ferments. Unless jaggery contains higher (unfermentable) sugars (I don't think it has any sugars other than sucrose, glucose, and fructose, though I could be wrong), it wouldn't add sweetness to the finished beer.
So I'm brewing this up tomorrow and plan to enter it into a homebrew contest come August. Here's the Recipe I threw together, let me know what you think. Malt/fermentalbes: 6lbs Pilsner (Unfortunately it's all I have, I thought I had more.) 4lbs Munich 4lbs 2-Row .25lbs Aromatic 2lbs Invert sugar (pure cane) .25lbs Turbinado -Obviously going BIG here! Looking for about 1.095 OG, 33.3 IBUs, mash at 151F for 60min, sparge @ 170, collect and boil 90 minutes. Hops & other additions: 2.5oz Tettnang 4.4% @ 60 minutes .5oz Perle 9.7% @ 10 minutes .5oz Perle 9.7% @ 5 minutes 1oz Perle 9.7% @ Flameout/Whirlpool - I find Perle hops to have a nice mint like aroma and bitterness. Zest of 3 limes @ Flameout/Whirlpool Yeast: White Labs WLP570 - 1000ml starter on stir plate overnight - roughly 14 hours. Primary @72 and perhaps kick it up to 74 for the last few days - about 1.011 FG. Transfer to secondary and add concoction of mint and lime infused rum (after ratio is determined, of course). After about a weeks time rack to bottling bucket and bottle up!