Molotov Lite - 2nd time around way different?

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  1. _-_-Jason-_-_

    _-_-Jason-_-_ Initiate (0) Dec 18, 2014 New York

    I thought 05515, using Julian, referred to the 55th day of 2015.... ie. February 24th.
     
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  2. BltByKrmn

    BltByKrmn Maven (1,349) Jan 16, 2013 New York

    You're right, sorry
     
  3. FutureJack

    FutureJack Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2007 California


    Not just onion, folks. GREEN onion.
     
  4. BltByKrmn

    BltByKrmn Maven (1,349) Jan 16, 2013 New York

    While your attempt to demean my comment is cute, can you really not tell the difference between various stages and types of onion? A grilled onion is going to taste completely different than an under ripe green onion.
     
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  5. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I have to admit that I'm not getting the warm fuzzies about trying some of those other beers, now.

    I only add that it may be intentional because it seems too widespread at this point to be an accidental occurrence.
     
  6. cherche

    cherche Pooh-Bah (2,476) Mar 27, 2013 Washington
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    My read on the opinions so far is that the first canning had very little diacetyl, the second way too much and the third more than the first but less than the second.

    The first canning was in 2014 i think...i didnt get any of that smell or taste

    Second canning seems to be hated by all universally as being a can of melted butter on bread

    third canning reviews are mixed with some getting the smell/taste, some not as much....

    I have only had the first and second...if the third is closer to the first I would say it is worth a try...the first time i had it i think i rated it somewhere between 4.3 and 4.4 and lowered my rating to 4 after my last experience...i would have given the beer a 2 on its own but didnt want to overreact if it was just a bad can...now i guess i will just have to try it again when i see a fresh can to determine if it is more like the amazing beer i had the first time or the terrible one i had the second time :slight_smile:
     
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  7. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    In the case of breweries that are known to be prone to diacetyl, I've picked up on varying amounts between beers in the same six pack. Drastically so. I chalk this up to me being more sensitive to it on different days. @cherche , if you're looking at what many people are experiencing, this will of course lessen this bias.
     
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  8. FutureJack

    FutureJack Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2007 California

    While my little jab was hardly demeaning, the truth is I was just having some fun and being a bit of a dick. I get a kick out of beer descriptors. That's about it.

    I save my DEMEANING comments for the horse blanket and tobacco crowd. Cheers dude.
     
  9. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I've experienced similar things, and sometimes it's difficult to tell where your senses' abilities' end and where the beer's qualities begin. These days, with all of this great beer available, though, I'd prefer not having to take chances on stuff like that anymore.

    Just to expand on the topic a bit, here's a pretty good article on the topic:
    http://www.professorbeer.com/articles/diacetyl.html

    "Even when diacetyl is formed by normal brewer’s yeast, it can be a scary thing. Certainly, a small amount of butteriness can add depth and complexity to some beer styles, but the level of diacetyl in packaged beer cannot be easily controlled by the brewer. That is why so many of us scorn this otherwise innocuous compound.

    If a bottle of beer leaves the brewery with exactly the butteriness the brewer intends, that does not mean the consumer will taste the beer in this condition. It is more than likely that the beer will continue to become buttery over time, until it becomes the dominant flavor. This can very well throw the beer’s flavor profile out of balance and embarrass the brewer."


    and a discussion here on BA, as well:
    http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/diacetyl-beers.195922/
     
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  10. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    The Polo set? I hate those guys...

    If you're talking beer descriptors, be careful- you will be one of them some day :wink:.
     
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