Monkish Brewing

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  1. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2009 California
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    Yes, absolutely. I've accepted the fact that I'm not going to tick every beer out there so I have no regrets about opting out of the lines for cans. I'd love to drink these beers but the lines are a deal breaker. However, I'd become an instant customer the minute they put these cans for sale online. I have no doubt I'm not alone in this category.
     
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  2. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
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    Ok, that makes sense. Maybe I've just lost the thread of the discussion, but why, again, does it need to be a one-day window? As opposed to, say, a week?
     
  3. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2009 California
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    Because the pro-line folks seem to be concerned with a brewery's ability to store these beers for extended periods of time.
     
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  4. DCLAguy11

    DCLAguy11 Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2014 California

    Because it puts a bigger burden on Monkish that has a very limited cold storage situation (storage in general). Yesterday someone was asking about online sales for cans and I pointed to the small-ish cooler in the back and they said "ohhhh...now it makes more sense."
     
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  5. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2009 California
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    The one day pickup window should eliminate any cold storage concerns considering the pallet of beer is placed at the entrance during sales anyway.
     
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  6. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
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    All of this makes me grateful for HPB's calm and easy Friday afternoon releases.
     
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  7. SDReaper

    SDReaper Pooh-Bah (2,174) Aug 15, 2013 California
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    Yes and no. Their lambics are rare'ish but looking back on other BPT stuff they have done the windows have been 1 day max. Usually 3-4x / year. So yeah, not as frequent as canned IPAs, but more frequent than say ddg and/or veritas.
     
  8. Tgilly

    Tgilly Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2013 California

    Cold storage limits aside, it seems like a better business move for them to sell it directly for high volume items like can releases. Eventbrite, bpt, all these companies charge fees which are put on to the customer. Why not just make that money themselves, instead of a $18 4pk+ fees. As someone who hates lines I'm for an online sale, but that won't please everyone. I see why it'd be more fair to the consumer for a 300 bottle count release online, but 2000+ cans would be a hassle on the brewery side even with a 1 day pick-up.

    It'd be cool for them to start processing orders in line with a mobile card swipe prior to opening and then at 10am you are handed your allotment. Won't cut down lines or people complaining but may speed things along. 2 cents, and the beer was good. Really Real taste like Spock It with more body, love galaxy forward beers. Can't wait to try it from the can.
     
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  9. ac24

    ac24 Zealot (696) Nov 17, 2014 California
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    Why is online sales of cans still a topic that is being discussed? Monkish is not going to do it if they dont want to regardless of how much useless back and forth there is on this thread.
     
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  10. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
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    Um, because it's a Web site devoted to talking about beer?
     
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  11. ac24

    ac24 Zealot (696) Nov 17, 2014 California
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    Um, so talk about the beer and not how they choose to sell it, which has been discussed to death already.
     
  12. KANE3

    KANE3 Zealot (506) Jul 31, 2012 California
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    how does it taste out of the can?
     
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  13. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
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    We eagerly await your list of approved discussion topics!
     
  14. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2009 California
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    Most topics have been discussed to death already if you've been around long enough. Give it a rest and let us make minced meat out of the dead horse.
     
  15. ac24

    ac24 Zealot (696) Nov 17, 2014 California
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    :rolling_eyes:
     
  16. DCLAguy11

    DCLAguy11 Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2014 California

    This is a great point that hasn't been discussed by keyboard jockeys enough. Actually the fees would probably have to be absorbed my Monkish. Yet another burden on them.

    And for it just being as easy as putting out a pallet of cans and having a one day window: most sales recently have taken 1-1.5 hours -- 45 minutes into sales and those cans are sweating like crazy. Imagine 3-4 hours later in that window and you have warm and most likely compromised cans. Seems like a fantastic idea for a brewery to keep the integrity of their beer.
     
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  17. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2009 California
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    As one of the keyboard jockeys that isn't interested in becoming a concrete jockey™, I'm curious about how much these fees actually amount to. I checked Eventbrite's site and based on their published fee structure, the fee for a $16 4-pack comes out to $1.47. If the fee can be passed onto the buyer, which, according to Eventbrite's site is possible, then that should eliminate the need for Monkish to absorb the cost. I don't know about you concrete jockeys, but I'd gladly pay that $1.47 per 4-pack if I can eliminate 3 hours of standing in line.

    As far as heat transfer goes, I'd bet people are gonna line up regardless so you'll likely see an initial rush in which a good chunk of cans will be sold upon opening. A percentage of cans can be kept at the front, while a smaller percentage kept in whatever cold storage they have available till they finish distributing which will be till EOD.

    If the average wait time is 2-3 hours, then this method will eliminate 500-700 hours of total wasted time waiting in line. Those are hours that can be spent doing something productive or more pleasant than hearing a bunch of dudes talk about trading or what walez they slew at the bottle share the night before.
     
  18. Black_Rider

    Black_Rider Pooh-Bah (2,019) Mar 26, 2013 California
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    the fees would not be absorbed by Monkish if they are passed on to the customer via the beer price. it's just math

    like someone said above, some people might be upset by the slight increase in beer price, but personally i wouldn't mind an extra dollar or two to not have to wait in a parking lot for hours

    it's 2016. there shouldn't be lines for anything any more. even the DMV has online appointment scheduling
     
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  19. DCLAguy11

    DCLAguy11 Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2014 California

    It's a business decision that Henry would not want to raise the price of his cans to account for the fees. If he could he could lower the price for cans like he did for his Saisons he would.

    Sure but what happens when you miss out on the online sale that sold out in 10 seconds. Or all the complaints received from that happening to many, many people. BTW - you could've shown up at 10am on Saturday and still gotten at least one 4pk.

    DMV is something people have to do. Beer cans are not.
     
  20. J-loco

    J-loco Savant (1,042) Jan 23, 2015 California
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    I'm just glad fruit cart wasn't an in person sale with all the savages.
     
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