More Alcohol = Better?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Das_Reh, Aug 29, 2013.

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  1. Das_Reh

    Das_Reh Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2013 Florida

    It seems to me that beers with higher ABV's are considered better or recieve higher ratings. Yet I'm one of those rare people who found DH 90 Minute IPA too boozy and sweet. Am I missing something? Is my palate not refined enough to appreciate beers of a higher percentage, or is it a case of "to each his own"?
     
  2. RichardMNixon

    RichardMNixon Maven (1,431) Jun 24, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Higher alcohol is due to more concentrated wort, and typically more hops and other ingredients to balance it out. It's a more concentrated, intense flavor. Espresso vs. coffee. Some people prefer coffee; nothing wrong with that.
     
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  3. beercanman

    beercanman Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2012 Ohio

    Its just preference. Don't ever go by the ratings. I prefer gigantic abv beers, but in the same breath I love session as well. Drink what you like and disregard ratings.
     
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  4. KevSal

    KevSal Pooh-Bah (2,940) Oct 17, 2010 California
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    No
     
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  5. mrdontplay

    mrdontplay Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 Missouri

    All my favorites are 9-12 ABV. Dont know if its the booze taste I like or it just comes with the beers I like. I like catching a good buzz off of just one bomber or a couple pints thought.
     
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  6. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I find DFH 90 to be boozy and overly sweet too. But I'm drinking a 10% Oracle right now and it's anything but sweet and boozy. It's bitter as hell, but I wouldn't quite call it boozy, but it's close, I can tell this isn't a 6% brew. I've had great brews that are all over the ABV spectrum especially IPA's, hard to make a great one that comes in under 7%, too little malt makes a pure bitter bomb. Caldera I like a lot it comes in at 6.8% I think, the session IPA's IMO suck.
     
  7. Mikecap

    Mikecap Pooh-Bah (2,098) May 18, 2012 Massachusetts
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    It's all about flavor and the way the beer is put together overall that make me like it. While I love me a massive 10% Russian Imperial Stout, I enjoy a 5% Samuel Smith Organic Chocolate Stout just the same
     
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  8. BrandonOakes

    BrandonOakes Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I find more potent (higher ABV) drinks to be a bit harder to drink. I feel this is mainly because I enjoy having a few drinks a night and don't want to have to limit my night to 2 beers before feeling a bit top heavy. I enjoy my less potent beers because I can enjoy them over a few hours and still feel sane when going to bed.
     
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  9. Das_Reh

    Das_Reh Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2013 Florida

    I felt the same way about Alba Scots Pine Ale, but then again it had no bitterness at all to balance it out. It may as well have been brandy, what with almost 8% ABV...

    There are beers I like with a high ABV... St. Bernardus Abt 12 clocks in at about 11% if I remember correctly, and I found it delicious (but too rich and decadent to have often, like birthday cake). The high ABV isn't the issue, though. I was just under the assumption that a lower ABV = inferior beer. I'm a big fan of wits, dunkels and other wheat beers, which while still full of flavor, tend to clock in at about 4.5-6%.
     
  10. FidelCashflow

    FidelCashflow Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2013 New York

    there are a lot of factors that shouldn't impact the ratings but inevitably do, this being one of them, so don't take them too serious. They're pretty good as a general guide though.

    To answer your question, it depends on how early I have to wake up the next morning
     
  11. dangle47

    dangle47 Devotee (383) May 16, 2007 New York

    Preference is all.. i think? Some days i'll drink an IPA and it will taste just ok. Some days, i can't get enough of it.
     
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  12. RochefortChris

    RochefortChris Grand Pooh-Bah (3,271) Oct 2, 2012 North Carolina
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    This! More people need to follow!
     
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  13. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    No I don't think as a general observation low ABV = inferior, but Styles count here, and the brewers skills are perhaps the most important ingredient. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a BA Stout that was great that was under 10%. Most of the better DIPA's are around 8%, most really good IPA's are around 7. I think the style and the ingredients needed to create balance influences an ABV range that are generally ideal for the style.
     
  14. YieldToNothing

    YieldToNothing Initiate (0) Mar 13, 2013 New York

    when i first got into beer, i fell into this line of thinking. i think that's what happens to a lot of folks at the beginning.
    i've only been in the game for a little over a year and only in the last few months have i been really starting to enjoy some beers in the sub 5.5% range.
    at first i was just looking for huge beers, then i started to figure out what flavors i really appreciated and then abv didn't really matter all that much.
    a beer like 1809 is very small and it has an insane amount of flavor. i've had a bunch of saisons in the 4-5% range that were fantastic as well. loaded with flavor.
     
  15. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Pooh-Bah (1,838) Feb 15, 2005 Minnesota
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    I think the higher ABV brews tend to be the most intense and complex. There are exceptions, like lambic and gueuze, but most lower ABV beers will be a bit more simple. They can be just as good, just not have the layers of flavor found in an imperial stout, barleywine, Belgian dark, dopplebock, etc.
     
  16. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Pooh-Bah (1,838) Feb 15, 2005 Minnesota
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    I agree with you IPA ABV idea.
     
  17. Joe_Grizzly

    Joe_Grizzly Pundit (754) Jul 27, 2013 New Hampshire
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    First beer i tried on the top 250 was DFH 90

    The first couple sips are great when it warms it tastes like carbonated whiskey to me

    Now everything tastes like shit unless its a silver can that says HEADDY TOPPER on it

    But that was one of my 1st impressions when I started lurking here higher ABV=better rating
     
  18. victory4me

    victory4me Initiate (0) Oct 16, 2004 Pennsylvania

    Less alcohol + More flavor = perfection

    There are a few breweries who have reached this calculation of perfection.

    Sometimes subtle flavors can = more flavor. It's like jazz, it's the flavors you aren't tasting.
     
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  19. Givemebeer

    Givemebeer Savant (1,219) Apr 6, 2013 Vermont

    I love BCBS and I love some of those low ABV berliner weisse beers that can be under 4%. ABV does not mean better.
     
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  20. Cvescalante

    Cvescalante Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2012 Texas

    I kinda feel like once you can appreciate subtle flavors in beers that aren't quite as "intense" your "palate" has become more refined. Big, bold beers are awesome, but when you can fully appreciate a simple porter, a lager or a pale ale, you're growing up in the beer world lol.
     
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