More Brewing Co. (StB) - (2018)

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by joshdaut, Feb 23, 2017.

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  1. Jangoon24

    Jangoon24 Savant (1,210) Jul 25, 2015 Illinois
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    Who's to say that I wouldn't enjoy my Saturday if I line up for this? All I said was that I'll be bypassing my plans to sleep in to do this instead....
     
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  2. HawksBeerFan

    HawksBeerFan Maven (1,378) Dec 24, 2011 Illinois
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    Then go for it, it's your life, live it the way you want
     
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  3. JFresh21

    JFresh21 Savant (1,036) Mar 6, 2012 Illinois
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    I mean they can, but they are building capital for the production brewery. Also, they want to make some profits.
     
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  4. THANAT0PSIS

    THANAT0PSIS Pooh-Bah (2,275) Aug 3, 2010 Wisconsin
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    We've been over this with Mikerphone: it's pretty bad business practice to pass off the cost of expansion onto your customers. Grow organically with reasonably-priced offerings or not at all. Plus, we all know that the people behind More have the capital to do pretty much whatever they want.

    Again, this is capitalism plain and simple, getting away with charging what they know they can get away with. Don't pretend like it's anything else. I don't fault them for it, but I don't think it's very cool.
     
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  5. NNN

    NNN Zealot (536) Feb 9, 2017 Illinois
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    Dear lord if you guys don’t like the price don’t get it. I’d rather pay for the expansion myself than see them sell out to InBev or not grow at all. Support breweries you like and hopefully they’ll grow — Isn’t that the idea?
     
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  6. allrecreational

    allrecreational Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2017 Illinois

    This price doesn’t seem that bad honestly. I know it’s not barrel-aged but compared to Mikerphone this is a bargain.

    ~ $1.34 / oz after tax for BA Noize. $0.78 / oz for this Henna, right? Pretty big difference on a percentage basis :slight_smile:

    I don’t think anyone would complain about paying $20-25 for a nice bottle of wine. At least you can split this over two occassions if you want.
     
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  7. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    I'm going to go out on a limb and assume the people who do not like the price are not buying the beer. :wink:
     
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  8. lloydboss

    lloydboss Initiate (0) May 9, 2014 Illinois

    FTFY
     
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  9. Troupos_Pearl_Jam

    Troupos_Pearl_Jam Devotee (361) May 6, 2017 Illinois
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    I’m alarmed by people using the term “Capitalism” as a bad word. What’s wrong with capitalism? Is communism or socialism or any other “ism” better? Capitalism ensures we constantly have great beer. Again, if you want to support More or Goose or Prairie or Sam Adams or corona, that’s your capitalistic right.
    In my world view capitalism is good, but Greed is bad.
     
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  10. THANAT0PSIS

    THANAT0PSIS Pooh-Bah (2,275) Aug 3, 2010 Wisconsin
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    I feel like the problem is bigger than that, and while I don't assume to speak for @HawksBeerFan, I think he would agree: this sets a precedent, or rather follows the precedent set by Mikerphone, and other breweries will follow them both. Not everyone of course, but some will, and i personally don't want to be in a world where $50 four-packs are the norm. It's still better than Mikerphone and a lot of bomber pricing, but that doesn't make it good.

    And It's a little dramatic to imply that they won't grow or they'll be forced to sell out if they don't charge $12.50 for a can of non-BA stout. You and I and everyone else know that they are successful and will continue to be so.

    Goes without saying that I'm not buying it, but this forum is for discussion, and I felt like discussing.
     
  11. THANAT0PSIS

    THANAT0PSIS Pooh-Bah (2,275) Aug 3, 2010 Wisconsin
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    Capitalism can be bad, but it isn't inherently, like most economic systems. In this case, I feel More is taking advantage of that system by seeing what the market will bear. "Greed" is a better word for it, though, I admit.
     
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  12. croush

    croush Pooh-Bah (2,407) Mar 20, 2015 Illinois
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    The More thread just keeps giving and giving!

    See you fools in the morning. I'll bring a few beers with me to share. Just look for the middle aged white guy with a beard in a hoodie.
     
  13. JFresh21

    JFresh21 Savant (1,036) Mar 6, 2012 Illinois
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    Valid points. Most industries have all different price points. You can get shoes for $40 or $400. Certain breweries can support higher prices.
     
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  14. Troupos_Pearl_Jam

    Troupos_Pearl_Jam Devotee (361) May 6, 2017 Illinois
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    Seriously, how else can I identify you? I’ll have a blue soft sided cooler and grey rain coat with a bears hat.
    I’ll pour you something if we meet up.
     
  15. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Grand Pooh-Bah (5,630) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois
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    OK, I'll bite. There is plenty of beer available at a very reasonable price point. Literally, shelves are fully stocked in Chicago with such product.

    Some beers cost a ton of money. If you can't afford them, or don't want to pay the prices for whatever reason...they are a "luxury" you can do without.

    It doesn't mean that beer has become a luxury item. It means that some beers are now luxury items.

    This certainly won't stop you from enjoying quality beer if you're not willing to pay luxury prices. There's still plenty of great beer for you. You just can't have Henna or [insert expensive beer here].
     
  16. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    And I'll bite. :wink:. Why have some beers become a luxury item? Is it because customers have been duped in thinking a subset of beers is more 'luxurious' than other beers? I mean that has to be what it is, no?

    ETA: For example, it's been pretty well discussed in other threads that the higher prices associated with NEIPAs does not directly correspond with the additional cost of hops required to make them. Yet whenever I see someone complain about the cost of an NEIPA, it seems a common response is, "it's got crazy hops" or "well, Tree House costs $x for its cans". IMO people just seem to blindly accept high prices in beer and have created these "luxury'" prices from their own purchasing habits. And in the end it just likely raises prices across the board.
     
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  17. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Grand Pooh-Bah (5,630) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois
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    There's plenty of quality beers across the board, style-wise, that are still affordable. It seems to me that people complaining about prices feel that every beer should cost what they want it to.

    Brickstone, for example, makes NE IPA's at an affordable price-point. Some are very good to me, some are just OK to me, but that's true of the more expensive breweries too! (Looking at you, Hop Butcher)

    Prices are not rising across the board, at least not more than what general Shitcago inflation will bring. There are just some beers that cost more than others. If the pressure exceeds the pleasure, as some baseball guy said, it's easy to pass & grab another beer that will do the job.
     
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  18. Chris_H_2

    Chris_H_2 Pundit (995) Jan 3, 2013 Illinois
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    Frankly, I think people just need to stop falsely equating breweries with some stupid notion of altruism and them looking out for the little people. They're businesses. They're in the game to make money. The more money they make, the better. And as long as the consumer is willing to stand in line or chase trucks and pay a lot of money for their product, they'll keep pricing them accordingly.
     
  19. croush

    croush Pooh-Bah (2,407) Mar 20, 2015 Illinois
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    I wasn't descriptive enough? :astonished: I will also have on a Michigan State hat, as well as a Michigan State cooler ("gotta support the team!" as a wise man named Puddy once said). I think I'm bringing a J Wakefield Desperado and an attempt at an Oreo-infused Black Note, among other things.

    I'm shocked...shocked, I tell you!
     
  20. csmakio

    csmakio Zealot (707) Nov 26, 2016 Illinois

    according to facebook there are already 6 people in line at 12:30AM...
     
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