Most "Googled" beer names in 2014

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  1. DavidHume

    DavidHume Maven (1,371) Mar 25, 2013 Virginia
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    Oh no! Too many people like their beer, so it can't be craft! That's hardly an approach for a Beer Advocate to take. The more people drinking craft, the better.
     
  2. Lamnic

    Lamnic Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2012 Connecticut

    Well Boston Beer makes something like 2.5M barrels a year. They broke the threshold we used to think was craft years ago. Now it's arbitrarily 6M barrels. What if they triple in the next 5 years?
     
  3. cnbrown313

    cnbrown313 Initiate (0) May 29, 2012 Illinois

    If you're going to make the Brewer's Association the only group that gets to define "craft", than yeah, you're right. But the Brewers Association definition of "Craft Brewer" is for their own statistical purposes only within their "guild" and they can change it whenever they feel like it... so personally I don't think that should be the only way we define "craft"
     
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  4. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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  5. Lamnic

    Lamnic Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2012 Connecticut

    The reason for the Volume maximum requirement is because the brewery can't be too big. They lose the mentality of all the good things we love about a brewery considered "craft". Unless Boston Beer continues to be philanthropic, active in their community, giving tours of their facility, and all the other things we love about craft breweries, then I honestly would have no problem with them being huge. It's just difficult to do that.
     
  6. bcp5296d

    bcp5296d Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2012 North Carolina

    Never really realized this, great post.
     
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  7. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Well, let's see - Boston Beer Co., after 40 years, has 1.4% of the US beer market. Not sure what constitutes "taking over the market" but I'm thinking it's above, at least, 2%?

    They changed it once, 2011. The old limit of "under 2m bbl." was based on the Federal Excise Tax definition of "small brewer", which was set in 1976 - before there really were "craft brewers".
     
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  8. Svingjo

    Svingjo Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2012 Canada (BC)

    I know here in Canada the craft beer designation is based upon volume produced.
     
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  9. EmperorBevis

    EmperorBevis Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,338) Sep 25, 2011 England
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    Bet there were a lot of google searches for most of those beers along the line of

    Why is XXXX beer so shitty
     
  10. 4kbrianb

    4kbrianb Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2013 California

    I'm convinced modelo is in there only because of soccer sponsorships south of the border. They're huge in a few pro leagues in Mexico, and some Central American leagues.
     
  11. JLaw55

    JLaw55 Pooh-Bah (2,417) Jul 10, 2014 Missouri
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    I personally think the guidelines they use to determine a brewery as craft or not are a joke.

    "Well everyone, we produced 5.9M barrels last year, so we are still going to be a 'craft' brewery. Next year doesn't look good though, as we are projecting to push out 6.1M barrels, which means we just crossed the line. Damn the luck, how dare us be successful." It just seems ridiculous. I mean, what is going to happen? A brewery is craft for the first 10 years, and then goes to what.. macro all of a sudden??? What do we classify them as then?

    I agree somewhat with you, a 'craft' designation should be about the love of the beer, attention to detail, and dedication to the craft. Even big breweries can care about their product, it may be more difficult, but it can be done.
     
  12. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    (I've posted this before, but...)

    The Brewers Association is a Trade Association. As such, their purpose is to "attempt to influence public policy in a direction favorable to the group's members. This can take the form of contributions to the campaigns of political candidates and parties through Political Action Committees (PACs); contributions to "issue" campaigns not tied to a candidate or party; and lobbying legislators to support or oppose particular legislation. In addition, trade groups attempt to influence the activities of regulatory bodies." (quote from the same link).

    Their definition must be seen in this light. They are crafting (pardon the pun) the definition to include those they are advocating for and exclude those they are not. Their "adjustments" to the definition are to keep those in they want in, and to keep those out they want out. Some of the definition is pure fluff so it does not sound so political. But, it is political.

    It is clear that they do not advocate for all of their members equally (AB-Inbev is a member, IIRC, as are probably most large brewers).

    Their selection of the name "craft brewer" for who they advocate for is unfortunate. Their strong-armed grab of the term did a disservice to the consumers.

    Their definition should have no weight outside of their narrow use of the term.
     
  13. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    Their beer is so popular, nobody drinks it anymore - Yogi Berra's spin on the topic
     
  14. KingforaDay

    KingforaDay Pooh-Bah (2,445) Aug 5, 2010 New Jersey
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    The threshold will most likely be raised if any craft brewer comes close to approaching the 6MM barrel limit, the same way the 2MM barrel limit was raised when SA went over. And as @zid said, that is a good thing as if we took SA and SN #'s out of the equation the craft market's image would suffer.
     
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  15. jcos

    jcos Pundit (802) Nov 23, 2009 Maryland

    Why do people Google Budweiser? To see commercials? It is not like their beer is hard to find...anywhere beer is sold.
     
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  16. KingforaDay

    KingforaDay Pooh-Bah (2,445) Aug 5, 2010 New Jersey
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    It's the same reason the most googled celebrities are Kim Kardashian, Paris Hilton, Donald Stirling, etc. instead of people with talent. Most people have poor taste.
     
  17. jcos

    jcos Pundit (802) Nov 23, 2009 Maryland

    Well two of those three are female so I'm sure some people are googling them, Donald Sterling was in the news..but Budweiser is the same damn thing all the time..so what is there to read about?
     
  18. JLaw55

    JLaw55 Pooh-Bah (2,417) Jul 10, 2014 Missouri
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    ^ This is why every time I hear someone say 'but the brewers association says...', I stop listening. If you think that they are the rule to a craft brewery, then I feel like you do not understand craft beer. Or at least don't appreciate it.

    It all comes back to my belief of drink what you like, who cares what designation they are given and who is giving it. Enjoy the beer.
     
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  19. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    Yeah, that was my first question, too. Why, momma, why?!? What info could people possibly be wanting to find on those brands?
     
  20. buzzedup

    buzzedup Savant (1,218) Dec 21, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I disagree, even if Anheuser-Busch started to offer a beer that was up to par with Bourbon County or Founders you would not buy it and consider it a craft beer?
     
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