Most overpriced brewery

I left stouts out as I stated I thought their flagship stout was all be it a bit high but still worth the money. I think their stouts are fairly good though as most are more then Boris and aren't as good, it does make it hard to justify (barrel aged it better but it's a lot more).

I already said I don't mind paying 30 bucks for great beer. I don't think anything I've had it great. I also don't think a 3.8 is anything special. Only a few of their beers are labeled "outstanding" or "world class" (or whatever the top two scores are) even among the 4.0 beers.

Also and I say this again, I'm from Kentucky. the prices are more or less the same here as there, maybe a buck a bottle less in Ohio and barrel aged boris I think might be 2 bucks less. I can't comment on else where.

And keep in mind a bunch of those TOP beers are nearly impossible to get so I'm not even considering them. I think stone is a value beer because stone IPA is amazing and cheap. Hoppin Frog's IPA is utter trash and runs 6-7 for a bomber. That's crazy expensive relative to quality. Look at their lower gravity beers, they aren't good and they still cost way to freaking much money. Even say Silk Porter which is good beer doesn't come close to justifying the price. It should be a 10-11 dollar 6 pack, not a 7 dollar bomber.

BTW how many times was hoppin frog mentioned here? People don't think their beer is worth the price. It's a very very common theme with nearly all their stuff.

 

What does stone put in a 750?

 

Ugh, look through the thread, I think I've explained myself rather well. I'm sorry I'm shiating all over your favorite brewery...but just because you disagree, doesn't make my opinion any less valid.

 

Given the styles and gravity of their beers that run 8.99 a bomber, do you really think they're over priced relative to competition? Is an espresso russian imperial over 10% made once a year (assuming they remake) really more expensive than what anyone else makes? Founders does it for 11-12 a 4 pack, so yeah better value. Mind you we're both closer to founders than Stone so shipping is a factor in these prices. Beyond that I'm not thinking of too many high gravity imperials that are less. I can think of a shitload that cost far more. I just paid 7.49 for enjoy by and the coconut deal which seem reasonable. Enjoy Buy is a big double IPA and hops are expensive. the R&R is a bit over priced given the lower abv in theory, I have no idea what the added flavors or lower bottling amounts should cause with price, but it's not ungodly expensive.

And I just have to come back to it. Stone IPA is like 10 bucks a six pack, and is imo one of the best single IPA's out there. It's less then two hearted and 60 minute more often than not here at least. Both those beers are produced closer to my home than the stone. Their pale ale is wonderful as is Levitation. And then they have a black ipa, imperial ipa, and oaked strong ale in 4 packs running for about 12 each. None of that seems expensive to me given style and quality.

If you don't like them then that's fine. I just don't think they are worth of being considered a worst offender for high prices given they are cheaper than so many other breweries for similar styles and products.

 

Comparatively, you may be right that they are a little outside the worst offenders. Though I still believe they're overpriced.

I would take SNPA over their Pale...which is definitely cheaper. I would also take Ranger over Stone's IPA. It comes down to what I've said previously...in that I don't buy into Stone's mantra that all hoppy beers have to be a dry as possible...and I'm not a fan of their bitterness characteristic.

It may simply be that I don't agree with what Stone considers the ideal flavor profile...which is why I think their beer is over-priced.

 

I'd say SNPA is way more bitter and dry than stone pale ale. Actually don't think that one is even close.

That said, it's cool if you don't like their beers. I truly think 90 minute IPA is awful, but it isn't over priced as an example. I just think it's unfair to list them as one of (I think you listed like 3 breweries as over priced) the most over priced breweries purely on not liking their IPAs.

Out of curiosity what do you think if Bastard, Old Guardian, Smoked Porter, and the Russian Imperial?

Personally think all are pretty good though I'd LOVE to see the porter put into a 4 pack for like 7-8 bucks over the bomber which is just an expensive format even if it runs 5-6 for the bottle. But those are not dry IPAs so I'm interested if your dislike is mostly for their IPA work.

 

Dreadnaught $9.99 for a bomber is overpriced. Per ounce it is more expensive than BCBS.

 

I agree with Stoudt's being overpriced, and frankly surprised it doesn't have more mentions here.

 

I bought some Bruery stuff for the first time last night, honestly this was the most expensive beer I've bought... 24 for Tart of Darkness and 18 for White Oak... Better be damn good.

 

I don't think that SNPA is more bitter, but that may be down to a palette issue.

Arrogant Bastard, is unremarkable or rather has the bitterness characteristic I don't care for.

Old Guardian and Smoked Porter I keep passing up...though I will try them at some point for the tick.

RIS, I do like...but I'd take Plead the 5th every time.

 

Fair enough, stone might have a higher ibu on the pale ale, but it's got more sweetness. I'll have to do a side by side I suppose. Well darn 37 ibu for sierra and 41 for stone. I still say stone is more balanced as it tastes like it has a bit more malt back. You also might consider bastard aged as it is great aged and the bite goes away.

And plead the 5th is pretty darn good too. Either ways cheers to great beer. Whatever it is you enjoy.

 

Any brewery who sells 375ml bottles for $10+. Sorry, it can't be that good.

 

Other than you, I counted 6 posts that said Hoppin Frog was overpriced. Out of 315 replies, that's roughly 2% of the responses. Even discounting repeated responses like yours and mine, that's not many. I wouldn't call that a common theme.

The most commented on beers appeared to me to be The Bruery, Evil Twin, Mikkeller, Nebraska, Rogue, Sculpin and Dogfish Head. All of them waaay more than Hoppin Frog.

I think this has become a pissing contest between you and me, and of little interest to other BAs. If I ever get to Cincy, I'll buy you a beer.

 

This is VERY true - and excellent points!

 

Go to Chicago and buy it...they only want between $18-$20 PER BOTTLE for it there!

 

No way on Stone. I think their IRS and Old Guardian are $8-9 bombers. Tough to find a better deal out there than that.

 

I can't really tell you what I think is overpriced when we haven't established what a "fair" price is for a beer.

Then you have to factor in the size of the brewery. You're paying for more than raw ingredients when you're buying a beer. Then you have whatever state you live in that may already have beer priced high (PA) then add on that you could pay $13 for a six pack in one store and $15 in another one 20 minutes away.

Obviously there are some "usual suspects" just by going over the names constantly mentioned here.

 

Sierra Nevada. 9$ a 6 pack, are you kidding me? And whats with their harvest series IPA's at 4$ a bottle are they trying to rob us?

 

I'm just going with if there are reasonable substitutes for a much lower price, then the beer in question is overpriced to me.

The Maine Beer Co. Peeper, which I mentioned earlier in the thread, isn't all that much better (if at all) than a number of other Pale Ales I can get for $11/sixer. So, even though I enjoyed the beer at the time, I will not spend $6 on a 16oz. bottle again. Same with King Titus, etc.

 

Rogue's never bothered me. I would never buy any of the XS series, but that's the only stuff that's overpriced. Otherwise, their bombers are some of the cheapest out there. I'm a little confused when people bring up Rogue outside the context of one series of relatively few beers.