Most Underrated Styles?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by unlikelyspiderperson, May 21, 2020.

  1. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Meyvn (1,489) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    What styles do you think are underappreciated? Maybe just personal favorites you have a hard time finding, under the radar easy drinkers, or bold flavors that get over looked.
    For my list;

    Keller/Zwikel beer - soft mouth feel, clean and mild flavor, and that oh so crucial IG ready haze.

    Dark Lagers - I know it's broad and is having a bit of a moment it seems but I love getting the deep, roasty, and dark fruit flavors of the bigger dark beers with a more hot weather friendly body

    Rye IPA - something about the peppery spice of rye and the hop bitterness just butters my toast

    Traditional Gose - not a kettle sour with 1/3 fruit puree by volume, but a simple light brew with some tartness and that deceptive depth from the sea salt is such a pleasure on a hot day hanging by cool water

    What say you all?
     
  2. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (2,782) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    German Maibock. The style is obviously seasonal so the availability is short, but I'm having trouble finding any of them other than via a growler from one of my local breweries. It's a good one from my brewery so I'm not desperately seeking others, but I always like some comparison from other sources, especially if it a German import.
     
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  3. hopsputin

    hopsputin Poo-Bah (2,225) Apr 1, 2012 New Jersey
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    Cascadian Dark Ales

    holla at ya boy.
     
  4. Beertsipper

    Beertsipper Devotee (455) Nov 18, 2008 New York

    Good post,

    Mine would be in order:
    1) Schwarzbier's
    2) Red Ale's (I would even put Dale's Pale Ale in this category)
    3) BSPA's
    4) Kristalweizen's
     
  5. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,803) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Unassuming, delicate little patersbiers. And hopefully I don't have to wait until I'm a grand-pater for them to happen. :wink:
     
  6. zid

    zid Meyvn (1,204) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Anything that's approaching black without motor oil viscosity.
     
  7. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Meyvn (1,011) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Amber/ Red Lagers.
     
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  8. Longhorn08

    Longhorn08 Aspirant (253) Feb 4, 2014 Texas
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    Quads. Not many people brew them. Some of the Belgian greats are readily available to me so that’s great, but very little variety.
     
  9. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Meyvn (1,485) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    All things lager. Raters on this site tend to not rate to style. If it's not an over the top asinine beer it naturally rates lower. If I see a lager rated over 3.5 here it's an instant buy. If it's over 4 I'm leery as it probably has American hops coming out its ass
     
  10. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Poo-Bah (2,124) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona
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    Lagers for sure, they always seem to get low balled even when fantastic tasting.
    Anything low ABV, seems like most equate great beer to high ABV.
     
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  11. tzieser

    tzieser Meyvn (1,162) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    English Pale Ale or English IPA.

    English Bitter is in there too but they’re so hard to find it’s tough to call them “underrated”. More like “unrated”.

    You could argue AAL, but then again it is still the #1 style of beer in America. Underrated around these parts, perhaps.
     
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  12. tzieser

    tzieser Meyvn (1,162) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    have you had that Modern Times Pilsner that had Citra and Mosaic in it? I took a chance; so fucking gross
     
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  13. Hoptometrist

    Hoptometrist Meyvn (1,139) Mar 19, 2011 Ohio

    Kellerbier. I grab one anytime I see them but not a lot of readily available ones here. Loving the new one from Bell’s in the Leaves of Grass series.
     
  14. Ahonky

    Ahonky Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2018 New York

    dunkleweizens, kolsch, english stout, pales ales (yep), czech pils
     
  15. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Aspirant (279) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia

    1. Authentic Vienna Lager
    2. Schwarzbier
    3. Maibock
    4. Doppelbock

    We have a couple more breweries in Georgia that ventured Maibock this year. Creature Comforts is releasing a Maibock collab with Burial Beer this Friday (5/22); but that is rare. It's next to impossible to find locally made Doppelbock. Fortunately, Paulaner Salvator is readily available, so I can find a good one. Doppelbock is seriously underrated as a beer style.
     
  16. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Aspirant (279) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia

    Almost put Dunkelweizen myself. That is a very underappreciated beer in this day of the sporty IPA.
     
  17. Ahonky

    Ahonky Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2018 New York

    The massive German beer hall/garden in my neighborhood doesn't carry one anymore
     
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  18. tone77

    tone77 Poo-Bah (6,448) May 20, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    My picks, in order:
    1) German Doppelbock
    2) Belgian IPA
    3) Scotch Wee Heavy
    4) Rye Beer
    5) Irish Red Ale
     
  19. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Aspirant (279) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia

    Untappd reviewers too, like this astute one who gave Ayinger Bavarian Pils a 3.0 rating :rolling_eyes:



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    I should not let fath n law pick out beers lol

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  20. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Aspirant (279) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia

    WHAT?!?!? How can they call themselves a German beer garden with no Dunkelweizen? Oh my...
     
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  21. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,803) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    But thick = good; how else are they supposed to know? :wink:
     
  22. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,657) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The two beer styles I wish were more readily available from commercial breweries:
    • Grodziskie
    • English Bitter Ale
    I am personally not holding my breath here.

    On the bright side for me - I have a Bitter Ale in my primary right now happily fermenting.

    Cheers!
     
  23. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Aspirant (279) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia

    Yes, major flaw with the overall rating system. Almost like there needs to be a handicap factored in.
     
  24. zid

    zid Meyvn (1,204) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    If they can taste the... "adjuncts." (shiver)
     
  25. Insomniac

    Insomniac Initiate (180) Nov 5, 2019 Canada

    Schwarzbier
    Baltic Porter
    Altbier
     
  26. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (1,915) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
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    The American craft beer drinker underappreciates the subtle (and complex) flavors of traditional English pub ales. (By "traditional" I don't mean by English history standards; I mean by 1980's or so standards, so maybe traditional is not the right word.. anyway...)

    CAMRA was asserting itself in defense of "traditional" English ales, and I was in England on business enjoying Marston's traditionally-brewed Pedigree Bitter (Burton upon Trent brewery, mineral-content of the water, Burton Union Sets brewing method, hand-pump drawn from cask). A fabluous, delicious beer. Hopefully, as Marston's has grown into a bit of a brewing and hotel conglomerate, they still continue to brew Pedigree in the traditional way at the traditional brewery.

    Locally, Summit EPA scratches some of that itch, but it still Americanized, and so I jumped at the chance to try an ESB brewed by Giesenbräu Bier Co. (reviewed in last Sunday's NBS). I understand the difficulty of bottling/canning these styles that are in their natural element on cask, but I'd still like to have a bit more selection than the imports from Fullers (as good as they are).

    However, moving a bit beyond nostalgia, the entirely of traditional English pub pale ales, from milds to bitters, is vastly underappreciated in this country.

    I don't expect that to change.
     
  27. tzieser

    tzieser Meyvn (1,162) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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  28. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Aspirant (279) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia

    Lol - maybe, but it still would probably be at least a 3.5 in that case. I've seen someone give it a 2.25 and their comment was and I quote "yuck!". I looked at Steve's other beer ratings. Trust me, he doesn't know jack snit about good beer. :joy:
     
  29. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,657) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I was traveling to Great Britain for business a lot in the early 1990's. That was my first exposure to Cask (Bitter) Ales. I absolutely loved Bass Ale on cask. The bottled stuff we got in the US was a totally different beer. I finally came to the conclusion that in order to get my 'fix' of English Bitter Ale I had to homebrew my own and bottle condition those beers. I have been homebrewing a Bitter Ale once a year ever since. The batch I brewed a couple of days ago is my 26th batch of Bitter Ale.

    Cheers!
     
  30. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Defender (634) May 29, 2011 Florida
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    Belgian Saison

    Most Saison in America is mixed culture and acid forward these days. Those light struck green glass funk bubbles (DuPont, Blaugies, Thiriez, Fantome, etc) are hard to beat.
     
  31. REVZEB

    REVZEB Poo-Bah (7,742) Mar 28, 2013 Illinois
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    Biere De Garde and Maibock!
     
  32. bluejacket74

    bluejacket74 Poo-Bah (5,464) Jul 4, 2005 Ohio
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    Personally I'd go with:

    Weizenbock
    Dunkelweizen
    English Pale Ale
    Cascadian Dark Ale/Black IPA
    Baltic Porter
    Roggenbier

    If I was at a brewery and they were serving any lesser known or not as popular style of beer I'd make sure to try it and get a pint if it was good. Cheers!
     
  33. Roadkizzle

    Roadkizzle Aspirant (227) Nov 6, 2007 Texas

    Altbiers for me. I get really excited when I see one available.

    I scheduled to go to a brewery with my wife because I found out they had an altbier. Sadly they stopped making it but they have a very good Dortmunder so I still go for that.
     
  34. Domingo

    Domingo Poo-Bah (2,689) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    Dubbel and authentic dunkels and altbiers. I like dubbels of all sorts and am even willing to deal with mediocre versions since they're still pretty tasty for my palate.
    Dunkels and alts are both rare and rarely good.

    While things might be different in the UK, English Pale Ale and Bitter Style are almost non-existent in the American craft scene. Imports are typically old, too. I love 'em to death but almost never get to drink them.
     
  35. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Poo-Bah (3,130) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    100% agreed on traditional Gose, as I believe I have expressed my distaste for those fruited Kettle Sours that brewers are calling Gose these days multiple times already. The same goes for Berliner Weiße, by the way. These are hard to find even in Germany, unfortunately, but I can occasionally get my hands on Ritterguts Gose and Schneeeule Berliner Weiße, who are making the best examples of these styles in Germany.

    Although I have to say that I had an excellent barrel-aged Gose with wormwood and pine needles and a Black Gose recently, so some experimentation is still valid, although these also stayed kinda true to Gose' roots by containing coriander and salt as well.

    Also agreed on Rye beers. Love myself a nice Rye Amber Ale or Rye Whiskey barrel-aged stout, but I can only find that sort of stuff once in a blue moon around here.

    And Black IPAs, of course, which I absolutely love but can rarely find as well.

    Gruit as well, or any herb/spice beers for that matter, really, as these were actually the first brews that got me into craft and I will buy anything with chili in it.

    Smoke Beer also comes to mind.

    And last, but not least, being from Cologne, I cannot help but feel that Alt is vastly underrated and much superior to that Kölsch swill :stuck_out_tongue:.
     
  36. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,657) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Saison Dupont is now packaged in brown bottles; been that way for a few years.

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  37. keithmurray

    keithmurray Meyvn (1,395) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut

    Munich Dunkels
    Belgian Dubbels

    I gotta come look you up next time I come thru PA, I wanna sample all of your homebrews!
     
  38. keithmurray

    keithmurray Meyvn (1,395) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut

    I am not sure what is going on with the style, but a few years ago, Korbinian used to be readily available and now I hardly ever see it and if I do, it's far too old for me to want to take a chance on it. I do still see Celebrator on shelves and for some reason, I'm one of the few who doesn't care for Salvator (given it may chances and I just find that it doesn't agree with me)
     
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  39. OffTrail

    OffTrail Initiate (83) Aug 12, 2012 Washington

    Faugh to bitter, alt, doppelbock, scotch ale.
    For a style that's REALLY underrated, look to Brown Ale.
     
  40. arizcards

    arizcards Poo-Bah (4,398) Jun 11, 2003 Arizona
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    A buddy of mine that visited maybe around Y2K enjoyed the cask version and maintains your take exactly!
     
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