My first recipe

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  1. Tobes181

    Tobes181 Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2014 New Jersey

    So I am attempting my first recipe this weekend and I have a question for everyone.

    Here is a link to the recipe.....

    https://www.brewtoad.com/recipes/tobes-hoppy-dipa

    I plan to do a 5.5 gallon boil and top off if need be in fermenter to make a 5 gallon batch. My tap water isn't the best so I am going to use Poland Spring bottled water.

    So my question is about the yeast, I am pretty sure I know the answer but would just like to make sure so I don't ruin my beer!

    So according to brew toad.....

    "To ferment your beer, you'll need 266 billion cells: 3 smack pack(s) or vial(s) of liquid yeast, or 13 gram(s) of dry yeast"

    I ordered 3 of these packets http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/wyeast-1056-american-ale-yeast.html

    Am I using all 3 packets? Is one packet considered a "smack pack"

    Cheers
     
  2. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    Yes, each is a smack pack. You'll get several answers, especially telling you to do a starter...but with that OG, I've pitched 1 smack pack several times and hit my FG just fine with no off flavors. Since it's your first brew, I'd go ahead and use 2 to make sure you have enough yeast though. No real need for 3 IMO.
     
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  3. Tobes181

    Tobes181 Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2014 New Jersey

    Cool, Ill go with 2 then and see how it works out. My first recipe so lets hope it taste good!
     
  4. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    What is your plan for that 1# of 2 row? Will you be mashing or steeping?

    As a matter of personal preference, I'd use the Chinook at 60, centennial at 30 and 15 (rather than 40 &15), Columbus at 5, and move the 5's to 0 mins.

    Cheers!
     
  5. Tobes181

    Tobes181 Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2014 New Jersey

    I was planning to steep it. Move the 5's to 0? So throw them in as I am cooling my wort?
     
  6. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
    Pooh-Bah

    What temp do you plan on pitching your yeast?
     
  7. Tobes181

    Tobes181 Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2014 New Jersey

    Didn't pick an exact temp yet
     
  8. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
    Pooh-Bah

    I would pay close attention to that part. Pitch too high bad deal, pitch too low bad deal. Yeast management is the single most important factor.
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    You shouldn't simply steep 2-row. You need mash conditions for the enzymes in the 2-row to convert its starches to sugars. The other grains in your grain bill are steepable, because they have already been converted. What was your purpose for adding the 2-row?
     
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  10. GavinHarper

    GavinHarper Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2014 California

    VikeMan is right. When steeping non specialty malts the unconverted starches leave haze in the beer if not steeped at the right temperature. If you're able to steep the 2row for 45min between 140-160F then you are basically mashing. Also the water volume is important, about 1.5qt/lb should be good. So for the 2.5lb of steepimg grains try not to use more than 4qts or 1 gallon. If you aren't able to hold the temp there for the duration I would forget about using 2row and there won't be any benefits and you'll likely end up with starch haze in your beer.
     
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  11. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    Yep, throw 'em in when you turn the burner off.
     
  12. A2HB

    A2HB Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2013 Michigan

    Looks like a good recipe
     
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  13. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    If you are going to use bottled water, I would use RO or distilled water vs. "spring water". You don't know what minerals are in spring water which could matter for a DIPA.

    Next time you do a beer like this, I would consider using US-05 (dry yeast) vs. 1056, you get the same yeast, but you don't spend as much.

    I would also drop the 2 row all together, it is not really adding anything to this beer and as mentioned, you can't just "steep" it.

    Definitely control your fermentation temps for a big beer like this.
     
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  14. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    I would definitely use the 2-row, but make sure that mash conditions are used (150 F for about 30 min or so). This malt will give you an added graininess to the beer (IMHO). Good luck!
     
  15. Tobes181

    Tobes181 Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2014 New Jersey

    I honestly don't know much about mashing....

    How long should I steep my grain for and at what temp?

    What temp should I add my yeast at?

    Fermantion temp will definitley be controlled!

    I have to go to the supermarket to pick up some water today to brew... I was recommened to use poland spring by a brewer. You think I should use something else?

    Thanks everyone for the help!! I appreciate it a lot. If it turns out good I would love to send anyone who wnats one a bottle!!
     
  16. EdRoss

    EdRoss Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2015 Maryland

    Recipe looks good n hoppy! Just some notes, if you pitch a double dose of yeast be sure to aerate well. All those guys are gonna be fighting for oxygen. A double dose of yeast will sometimes get violent/hot quick, I like to pitch on the cool side and let it rise up. 2-row Brewer malt is an old staple for me. I mash an hour at 150-153 never had an issue. Good luck and have fun!
     
  17. Tobes181

    Tobes181 Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2014 New Jersey

    awesome thanks!! If you were to tell me how to mash in the easiest most simple way how would you explain?? Should I try partial mash with the 2 row??? Or should I just go without it for now?
     
  18. EdRoss

    EdRoss Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2015 Maryland

    Tobes, everyone will have their own method and preferred one. I try to keep things basic and simple. Simple method is using a brew pot. I heat a quart of water per pound of grain up to 155. When you add the grain it will lower the temp. I simply steep/mash at 150-153 degrees for an hour, a nice round number.

    While I steep/mash I heat up about a 1.5 quarts/ lb grain of sparge water to 170. The sparge water is what you are going to rinse over your grain. This will wash out the extra sugars you converted. I use a seperate pot and place a colander over top of it. Put my grains,or grain bag in colander and rinse with the sparge water. The wort that falls thru just add back into your original brew pot. Also don't boil your grains and don't squeeze or press on them in colander, this pushes out tannins you may not want.

    Good Luck!
     
  19. GavinHarper

    GavinHarper Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2014 California

    Do a partial mash with the 2row or don't use it.
     
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  20. Tobes181

    Tobes181 Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2014 New Jersey

    Thanks everyone. Took out the 2row. Next time I'm going to try a partial mash with 2row.
     
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