My plan for SF/Sonoma/Napa

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  1. TambaTime

    TambaTime Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Heading to the Bay Area for six days in mid-June. Here's what I've got for an itinerary so far. I'd love it if you told me which parts sucked and how I could make them better:

    Day 1: Land, check in to hotel, Rosamunde/Toronado for lunch and a first beer (or three), some touristy stuff (cable car, Lombard St., Irish coffee at Buena Vista, dinner at Frances.

    Day 2: Zeitgeist/Craftsman and Wolves in some order for breakfast, explore the Mission (Dolores Park, Cerveceria de Mateveza, Bi-Rite, La Taqueria or El Farolito), BART to Berkeley to check out Rare Barrel, BART back to SF to get to Cellarmaker before closing, City Beer Store, dinner at 4505 Burgers and BBQ.

    Day 3: Brenda's French Soul Food for breakfast, Alcatraz tour, exploring (Coit Tower, Ferry Building), "tailgating" at 21st Amendment, The Yard and Public House before the Giants-Mariners game.

    Day 4: Pick up the rental car and head north over the Golden Gate, enjoy the various views of the bridge and city, breakfast in Sausalito (Lighthouse Cafe?), tour at Lagunitas (this will be a Tuesday, so the tasting room will be closed), stop at Beer Craft in Rohnert Park, lunch at Bear Republic, check in to Airbnb in Santa Rosa and settle in for a glorious night at Russian River.

    Day 5: Breakfast in Santa Rosa (would appreciate suggestions) before visiting wineries (would really appreciate suggestions). Itinerary TBD but we're considering Chateau Montelana, Von Strasser, Failla, Frog's Leap, Stag's Leap Wine Cellars, and Silverado Vineyards, among others. We enjoy wine, though not as much as beer, so looking for 2-4 places that combine solid wine with spectacular views, interesting tours, etc. We're staying in Yountville and doing dinner at Bouchon.

    Day 6: Head south through Berkeley/Oakland, with potential stops at the Torpedo Room, Fieldwork Brewery, the Trappist, Beer Revolution, and/or Faction Brewing, drop off the rental, grab dinner at our last drinks at Mikkeller, take BART to SFO for a red eye back to the East Coast.
     
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  2. reefer_bob

    reefer_bob Savant (1,010) May 13, 2014 California
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    Prayers for your liver.

    Solid itinerary, well thought out.

    Silverado Winery in Calistoga is a must hit then. Mini tram ride up the hill, with a great view down valley. Good enough wines. I also like Stag's Leap Wine Cellars (NOT Stags Leap Winery). Really nice tour of the caves and amazing wines.

    If you like Bubbles, you'll be super close to Schramsberg. Great tour, amazing wines and Champagne. Not much for views as it's very wooded. (you'll need to make a reservation though)
     
  3. mayorQuimby

    mayorQuimby Zealot (633) Jun 5, 2009 Tennessee
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    Sounds like a fantastic trip! I'd recommend David Fulton in St Helena as well. His Pinot Noir is unreal.
     
  4. TambaTime

    TambaTime Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Thank you both.

    @reefer_bob: I can be a tad obsessive sometimes, which pays off when we travel. I was aware of how an apostrophe can make a world of difference when discussing Stag's Leap and Stags Leap but appreciate the reminder.

    @mayorQuimby: I'll have to look into David Fulton, as pinot noir is my favorite varietal.
     
  5. reefer_bob

    reefer_bob Savant (1,010) May 13, 2014 California
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    I suppose a good follow up question could be, what sorts of wines are you looking to try, Chards, Cabs, Pinots, Zins, bubbles...
     
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  6. DOTU

    DOTU Pundit (775) Feb 11, 2011 California

    Looks very solid and well-informed. Rare Barrel is only open until 6p and Cellarmaker 8p on Sundays, so you are going to have to leave enough time to commute/walk (est. 1.5 hours each way) and actually enjoy either or both of these great spots. I actually would suggest adding in Fieldwork (until 8p) and maybe the Torpedo Room (until 9p) or Trappist Provisions (until midnite) after Rare Barrel, and then tailgating before the game at City Beer, Cellarmaker and Public House, where you can get up to two beers each to carry into the game. You can also walk over to 21st A. after the game if you want to check it out. When you come back from Napa, you can focus on Trappist and Beer Rev, which are close to each other and on the way to/from Faction.

    As for your La Taqueria vs. El Farolito conundrum, you can consider these suggestions: if you are not ok with a pretty dank and low-down atmosphere and clientele, then skip Farolito; if you like massive gut-buster burritos and can stand the dank, then go to Farolito; if you want tacos or smaller, no-rice burritos, go to La Taqueria.

    Enjoy!
     
  7. TambaTime

    TambaTime Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Our preference leans toward cabs and pinots.
     
  8. TambaTime

    TambaTime Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2015 Pennsylvania

    @DOTU: Thanks for the comments. About your commute times, Google Maps says the travel time from El Faro to the Ashby station in Berkeley is 27 minutes on BART. I'm planning to get off there and Uber it to Rare Barrel, after a previous BA recommendation. I'm just curious why you're allotting 45 minutes more than I'm expecting it to take each way. Also, the one issue with going to Cellarmaker the next day is that their web site says they're closed Mondays.

    El Faro sounds like a lot of the taquerias in our neighborhood in South Philly, so that shouldn't be an issue. I'm trying to ignore the whole, La Taqueria was voted best burrito in the country thing, when deciding on which one to visit.
     
  9. DOTU

    DOTU Pundit (775) Feb 11, 2011 California

    I'm overstating a bit to be conservative, and I didn't know you were going to Uber to/from RB, but I'd still leave an hour from hitting the BART station to arriving at RB and vice-versa. I didn't focus on the Monday part, so you're right that Cellarmaker is not an option for tailgating. I actually have tickets to that game, so BM me if you want to link up at the park or somewhere nearby.

    Back to the taquerias. I wouldn't decide based on any poll or vote either. El Farolito (not to be confused with the much lesser El Faro taquerias) was my personal favorite for many years. As I got older, I switched to La Taqueria for the more manageable size and because I love their half grilled chicken, half chorizo burrito. If I go to Farolito these days, I just ask for no rice or just a bit of rice to knock their burrito down to size. Another option on Valencia is Taqueria La Cumbre, which some consider the OG of Mission taquerias. You can't go wrong with any of those options, and don't forget that Rosamunde on Mission has 27 taps and is smack between Farolito and La Taqueria.
     
  10. spark3148857

    spark3148857 Pooh-Bah (1,595) Dec 4, 2010 Ohio
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    Rare Barrel, Cellarmaker, City Beer, and 4505 in one day is a lot especially on a Sunday when Cellarmaker closes early. 4505 has a pretty good beer selection. 5 blocks up Fulton from 4505 is Barrelhead at Fulton and Masonic and they are brewing some pretty solid beers in house. I like the idea of coming back through Berkeley on your way back from Sonoma and stopping at Fieldwork/Torpedo Room/Faction. All are great places. We are members at Hook and Ladder Winery in Santa Rosa. Very laid back and affordable plus the owner is a retired SFFD firefighter (I was a volunteer firefighter before moving to the city) so that's cool. @TambaTime do you like good coffee?
     
  11. mapleneck

    mapleneck Devotee (382) Jan 2, 2010 California
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    The best Santa Rosa breakfast place is Dierk's Parkside Cafe.
    Jeffrey's Hillside and Spinster Sisters are also good.
    If you have time, you can try the Moonlight beers at Flavor Bistro down the block from RR.
     
  12. Alpha309

    Alpha309 Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2014 California

    do you have your alcatraz tickets yet? That would be the thing I would float to a different day on your list. Not too sure where I would move it, but Sunday with everything closing early you may want to do "exploring" early and have time to get to the things that close earlier instead of something that is very time specific.
     
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  13. TambaTime

    TambaTime Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Thanks for the mentions of Barrelhead at Fulton, Hook and Ladder Winery, the Santa Rosa breakfast spots, and Flavor Bistro. Hadn't heard of many of those.

    @Alpha309 We bought tickets for a Monday morning sailing to Alcatraz. We hope to use Saturday to settle in, Sunday to explore and eat/drink, and Monday to do Alctraz and the baseball game with some odds and ends thrown in.
     
  14. theconductor

    theconductor Zealot (739) Nov 4, 2008 California

    I'll second Dierk's in Santa Rosa. There are a few on here who disagree with me, but I stand by Omelet Express. Every time I go there, I am impressed with the food and service.
     
  15. Coldstorage

    Coldstorage Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2014 California

    I will third Dierk's parkside. There is also midtown cafe with an almost identical (slightly smaller..) menu but much shorter wait times. Though if you are doing a weekday that wait shouldn't be too bad.
     
  16. Alpha309

    Alpha309 Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2014 California

    Got it. You are much more organized than me. I just go and decide what to do when I get there. I am not a big keep a schedule guy on my free time. I probably miss out on a lot of things because of it. Looks like you are going to have a fun
     
  17. Marquizzle

    Marquizzle Initiate (0) Apr 9, 2015 California

    That beer itinerary is outstanding, but all I can think of is that Rebel Within from Craftsman & Wolves...
     
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  18. TambaTime

    TambaTime Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Yea, we've been to LA a couple of times and my wife's been to SD, but this will be our first time in SF so we're definitely trying to make the most of it. Fortunately, we get 10 days of liver warm-ups thanks to Philly Beer Week. Haha.

    Digging a little more into Rare Barrel and Cellarmaker specifically, I've checked out the reviews, but can anyone recommend beers to be on the lookout for? It seems like Rare Barrel's list is forever changing, and I know hops are Cellarmaker's bread and butter, but do they always (or almost always) have Coffee and Cigarettes on? And does Cellarmaker have any bottles available? I'd love to bring a couple back, along with stuff from Almanac and the RR beers we don't see in Philly.
     
  19. Vivified

    Vivified Initiate (0) Jul 9, 2014 California

    Cellarmaker doesn't bottle, but they will fill practically any growler.
     
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  20. AlexM

    AlexM Pooh-Bah (1,868) Jun 9, 2011 California
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    Not really - both those places the taps change constantly. Coffee & Cigs is outstanding ... a must try if on tap. I personally enjoyed pretty much every hoppy/IPA brew I've had from them. I was up there about two weeks ago and they had like 7 hoppys available. Just try everything - Cellarmaker is absolutely kickass. No bottles available, but they do have 32oz and 64oz growlers available. Also if you are into t-shirts - there designs are super cool.
     
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