Name That Flower...

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  1. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    What flower am I smelling and tasting in Centennial hops? I need information beyond "flowers and spice" or "citrus". I've had Stone IPA, Ruin Ten, and am drinking a SN Bigfoot 2013 right now. I pick up a ton of some sort of floral potpourri, but can't place it. Difficult to enjoy. Any help with what the flowers/potpourri/perfume am I actually smelling/tasting?
     
  2. DrewBeechum

    DrewBeechum Pooh-Bah (1,954) Mar 15, 2003 California
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    You're probably smelling the essential oil geraniol, which can smell a bit like geraniums and roses. It is a big contributor in the C hops and often breaks down to citral (or it's isomer geranial) which smells lemony
     
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  3. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    I asked Sam (bulletrain76) from Firestone Walker about how to achieve the floral quality of Union Jack, which is Bittering— Magnum; Late Kettle—Cascade, Centennial; Dry Hops—Amarillo, Cascade, Centennial, Citra, Chinook, Simco. His response was only to "use all the hops". So now that you bring it up, maybe Centennial is the key.
     
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Oh that's easy. It's Geranium pratense, aka the Meadow Cranesbill. The European landrace, not so much the Asian. Hey, if people can smell Crushed Cape Gooseberries in hops, why not?

    Seriously, geraniol is kind of a rosey smelling compound (as drewbage said), and is used in perfumes. I think it's also used in some artificial fruit flavors.
     
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  5. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    You have to be a true aficionado to pick out those subtle flavors.
     
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  6. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I usually suck at "Name that hop odor" but the smell of Geranium is one of the distinctive notes that I sometimes can pick up. I think it is because I am familiar with the smell from my houseplant and garden hobby. Come to think of it, I am often sitting in my Adirondack chair next to a Geranium display when I am drinking a homebrew. Perhaps I have no keen ability to pick up on Geranium odors in hops after all.
     
  7. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    As long as your Centennial hops don't smell like Amorphophallus Titanum you're okay.
     
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  8. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Linalool will also give a lavender aroma, but sometimes fruit loops.
     
  9. mugs1789

    mugs1789 Zealot (611) Dec 6, 2005 Maryland

    Excellent thread. I am also terrible at the 'describe the hop flavor/aroma' game. After 'citrus' and 'floral,' I am typically out of descriptions.
     
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