NE IPAs in Ohio?

I must have missed it, I don't see anything in regards to them. And their personal Facebook has no visitor posts, and the event has been deleted.

 

I am sure they will still release the beer. Just under a different name. They aren't gonna kill the beer...

 

If they do kill it then my guess is it wasn't an issue with the name but the finished product.

 

Columbus Brewing recently had an issue with their NE IPA causing them to dump it, due to a fermentation issue. Wonder if they have/used the same yeast strain? Far fetched, possibly, but perhaps...?

 

What was the name?

 

Our issue was not with the yeast strain itself...well, not really. It was the viability, or lack thereof, of healthy cells after attempting to harvest from the first batch and pitch to the second. It fermented out to where we wanted it, but the yeast was presumably stressed causing an off flavor I couldn't live with. The batch still had a lot of positive attributes....just one negative one that sent it down the drain.

 

If the Haze isn't dank, you must put more hops in the tank.

 

If the beer isn’t cloudy the fanbois get pouty.

 

Can't we just go back to when everything was called Bombshell Blonde and had pin-up girls on the label; when Santa's Little Helper was an edgy name for a beer? All of these NEw breweries are trying way too hard to come up with funny beer names and they almost always miss the mark and just come off as tasteless or juvenile. Why do beers even have to have funny names?

 

Honestly, I barely pay attention to names and artwork. Like it’s a neat part of brewing, getting to add art and creativity (in general), but has absolutely zero impact on the taste of the beer. Is the beer good? Then that’s all that matters. Kinda like my friends who argue and debate over the Browns colors and uniform design. Put them in pink and olive green houndstooth, for all I care, as long as they just f***ing win.

 

Craft beer is more diverse now? C'mon man, you don't actually believe that.

Let's take a little look.

The Veil currently has 9 IPAs and an IPL out of 13 taps. The others being kettle sours and pastry stouts.


Hoof Hearted currently has 4 IPAs out of 7 taps. The others being stouts and a kettle sour.

Masthead currently is pretty diverse, yet they have 7 IPAs and two stouts on.

Platform Columbus is showing 7 IPA/hoppy pales and a litany of kettle sours out of 21 taps.

And Stone Escondido has a whopping 16 IPAs with the rest being mostly filled in with, you guessed it, fruited kettle sours.

Never before would it have been acceptable to even have two of the same style on tap at your brewery. Now its basically understood that your flagships (if you even do flagships, let alone brew a beer more than once) are all IPAs. There are so many styles that are long forgotten. No doubt many brewers opening these hype factories haven't even tasted most styles of beer.

 

My how convenient selective memory is.

Yes, easily. By a fucking country mile and then some!

Don't drink Veil (I know I won't). Don't drink Masthead (your loss). Don't drink Hoof (they're doing just fine without you or me). Don't drink Platform (meh). Don't drink Stone (they're pretty damn self-aware of their current myopic business plan).

Stop complaining about shit no one is forcing you to purchase.

Better yet, take your time machine back to an era where every other brewery under the sun tried to be a German beer garden with 20 pathetic variations on a theme, and failed fucking miserably.

At which brewery now?

Individual breweries have independently chosen to focus on their own chosen specific styles since brewing began. But nowadays, there are multitudes more craft breweries, many of which are brewing all kinds of styles, and many of those are vastly improved over their predecessors. Many of these breweries are resurrecting styles many people have never had the chance to taste before. Think Gose, which few had tasted a few years ago now you can't throw a stone without hitting three breweries making one. Think Jester King, constantly putting out shit only the old world has any experience tasting.

The American craft beer scene never attained this sort of wealth of quality and variety during whatever pastime you're fawning over. It's barely even past its adolescence at this point, and it's never been better, or more varied.

 

It doesn't matter if you drink beers from the breweries I listed. Not in the least. I wasn't even trying to list breweries I thought you liked because that is irrelevant to my point. So I'm not sure why you think you're validated by having sworn off Veil or whatever the hell.

It doesn't even matter that I don't drink beers from these places. The point is that IPA is taking over, narrowing everyone's options. Why would I want to go to a tap room with 20 taps but half are filled with IPA and another 5 are some kettle sour masquerading as gose?

The store shelves are just as bad and all of this is only getting worse. There is definitely a decline in styles being brewed. It is not really surprising though. Its the same thing that happened after prohibition. The average beer drinker isn't adventurous or even cares to understand the purpose of different styles. IPA is the new maco lager, with many breweries doing the style little to no justice.

When before would you have hear brewers saying "Just trying to fit in, ya know?"

 

Seriously, you need to loosen up.

I disagree entirely. People new to and interested in trying craft beer, a population that is greater than it has ever been in the past, are gravitating to low bitterness beers in greater numbers than ever before. Everyone has to start somewhere. This is a gateway experience.

There will always be a massive foundation of experienced craft beer lovers that enjoy and appreciate all styles and are knowledgeable about them. And, dare I say, some of the people from that group actually enjoy the NE-style IPA legitimately. That doesn't take away from you being able to enjoy that which you...enjoy...if that's even anything, at all.

I can't answer that for you--I never told you to do so, and never forced you to do so. Again, those are choices you can make on your own that no one is forcing you to make. The market will decide who succeeds. If you hate whatever outcome that provides, then you are, by definition, in the extremely slim minority.

I again disagree entirely. But then again, I guess the 10-20 shops I happen upon on a weekly basis are those you don't seem to frequent.

You can keep stereotyping all you want, but the average beer drinker is drinking a fucking Lite lager right now, statistically. You're screaming at a wall that is insignificant because there's a much bigger wall that really doesn't care anything about you or any of the rest of the craft beer nerdery we're blabbing about.

 

The sexual tension between @Sabtos and @CannedWaggoneer is almost unbearable! Last Tango In Columbus.

 

I definitely was talking about craft beer drinkers there in the last bit, and I know you knew that because obviously people who've never touched craft aren't a factor here, but I'll remember to guard against your extreme pedantry from now on. Thank god for spell check or else my entire argument would be shot down.

But what I'm trying to say is history repeats itself. We are at a crossroads with this now. The ratio of serious craft beer drinkers to casual easygoing craft drinkers is not yet swayed so far that people like us can't right the ship. But we are quickly losing ground. That ground is being given up by the dudes standing in lines and driving states over for more IPA.

 

As stated in another thread... the ignore button works amazing. The lack of their posts/long winded responses really cleans up these threads. They are now bearable to read through.

 

Well, I'm single, so I need something to spice up my life!!

 

Outside of the parts where they take shots at each other, I’m actually enjoying this particular debate.