Need Kegerator advice

Discussion in 'Home Bar' started by easye418, Mar 25, 2015.

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  1. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    They get that way. I usually change them every 8-12 months. It is cheap enough.
     
  2. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    i think i can speak for many here... we are super happy that your system is in check. and that you stayed with us. well, with Doug anyway. great BA work Doug.

    buy yourself a roll of beverage tubing. thick wall, 3/16" by 7/16" and not the 3/16" by 5/16". the extra 2/16 (1/8 I suppose) is a better product.
    then, once a year. when you feel like it, change lines. throw out the old and install the new. you'll be golden forever.

    beer is food and no matter how hard your try the lines will eventually go off. beer stone is a big headache best solved by replacement in our world of kegerators.
    Cheers.
     
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  3. easye418

    easye418 Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2015 Texas

    @DougC123 @billandsuz

    The beer line I got was 3/16 by 7/16.

    The pour is much slower. The foam is considerably less. I changed it 2 hrs ago. I would say its around inch to inch and a half.

    Cheers to both of you for helping. Big thanks to Doug.
     
  4. easye418

    easye418 Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2015 Texas

    @DougC123 I meant to add that I get a burp of foam when I close the tap
     
  5. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Haven't encountered foam upon closing. Are you closing it crisply?
     
  6. easye418

    easye418 Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2015 Texas

    @DougC123 it was a pretty choppy close when I did it the first time so I will need to test it out again and report back.
     
  7. easye418

    easye418 Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2015 Texas

    @DougC123

    I bet you thought you got rid of me!

    So I haven't touched the kegerator for close to week. I haven't adjusted any temperature knobs or anything, however, for giggles, I went to test the beer temp today and it showed up at 33.9 degrees. WELL below what I was drinking it on last Friday....

    1. Is it possible that it changes with the house temperature?
    2. If I raise the temperature, about how much should I adjust on the thermostat?

    First pour is 65% foam, second pour around 25% (3 fingers), third pour even better.
     
  8. LetsGoExploring

    LetsGoExploring Pooh-Bah (1,550) Apr 25, 2006 Connecticut
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    Think it's time to cut your losses and get a new unit.

    Or just buy 30 packs.
     
  9. easye418

    easye418 Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2015 Texas

    Thanks for posting worthless information.

    I'd like to know how you deduced this.
     
  10. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Entirely possible that since you weren't opening and closing the door it equalized there. Next time you hear it run turn the temp dial until it stops running and let it settle there for a while. Have you checked the door seals? Flashlight inside and turn off the room lights. A gap in the seal will screw with you too.
     
  11. LetsGoExploring

    LetsGoExploring Pooh-Bah (1,550) Apr 25, 2006 Connecticut
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    Sorry man, just having a little fun. You have more patience than I; would have been too frustrated to keep at it. Good luck with your machine.
     
  12. easye418

    easye418 Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2015 Texas

    It's alright. I've come to far to give up!
     
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  13. easye418

    easye418 Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2015 Texas

    @DougC123

    I took the temperature down about a 1/2 number (It was on 6, took it to 5.5)... Beer temp is up around 1.5 degrees at ~35.9. I actually enjoy it ice cold, nice relaxing drink.

    Given a v/v of 2.7, my PSI is 12 PSI so I am pretty much at 2.7 (slightly light).

    Stuck a flashlight into the kegerator. Examined the seals... couldn't see any light.

    Foam issues on the first pour still... Not really bother some... I am going to try to get a longer tube so my tower cooler fits right next to the shank.

    Next journey will be switching out one tap tower for two tap tower.... I want to get some Perlick faucets as well.

    As usual Doug, THANK YOU
     
  14. easye418

    easye418 Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2015 Texas

    @DougC123 I am going to look into extending the Tower Cooler hose.... what do you recommend insulating the tower with?
    I want to eliminate the sweat.
     
  15. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    You can't eliminate the sweat because you can't add enough insulation without restricting the return airflow from the tower cooler.
     
  16. beerdumper

    beerdumper Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2015 California

    You can insulate the tower you just don't want to block air flow doing so. Most towers come with a thin foam cylinder that just sits inside the tower with the beer line running through the middle. I have had to try and insulate towers that weren't insulated at original install and I used some pipe insulation that was about 3" in diameter and simply cut strips out of it till it fit the size of the tower. Just make sure you use nothing thicker than an inch, I would use 1/2" or so.

    Also I would say your current issue is you have too much restriction for the psi you have it set to. I wouldn't increase the psi either. Cut your line down to 5'. 10' is way too long. I don't know what elevation you are at but generally 1' of 3/16 beerline is a little more than 2 pounds of restriction. The beer should pour fully out of the faucet, which I highly don't yours is.
     
  17. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    He has first beer foam now, all he needs is a tower cooler that goes to the shanks. It isn't line length related. Don't go backing up all the progress that was made over the last three pages.
     
  18. beerdumper

    beerdumper Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2015 California

    Not to step on your toes Doug but he said his tower was sweating and he was talking of extending the blower hose so I assumed he has a tower cooler.

    To the OP the blower hose should come all the way behind the shanks in the tower so that all that cold air flows directly over the shanks and back down the whole length of line.

    Doug I agree that he should get his temp under control before he trouble shoots anything else but it sounds like you did get it under control and having 22 pounds of restriction with 12 psi on the line will cause the exact problems he is experiencing. The pressure gap from that will cause the beer to off gas to balance out the loss of pressure.
     
  19. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Again, based on his last report everything is fine except for the first beer which can be fixed with the tower cooler properly positioned. 10' lines are fine, they are slowing the flow of properly balanced beer. Could they be shorter? Sure, but they aren't causing the first beer foam.
     
  20. easye418

    easye418 Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2015 Texas

    @beerdumper @DougC123

    Heh...yeah I'm not cutting my 10' down to 5'. That's for damn sure.

    It may of been confusing. The tower cooler hose doesn't stretch to the shank. It stretches to about 5 inches below the shank. I want to replace the tower cooler blower hose to a longer one.

    By the way, I killed the first keg last Saturday. So round two is coming up soon. I plan on picking up a keg middle of next week. Allow it sit in the kegerator for a few days before I use it.

    Thanks!
     
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