Need Kegerator advice

Discussion in 'Home Bar' started by easye418, Mar 25, 2015.

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  1. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    It doesn't need to sit for a few days, if everything is dialed in it can be tapped right away. It may be a bit foamy from being shaken and losing a bit of its chill, but will be fine. I always tap right away.
     
  2. easye418

    easye418 Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2015 Texas

  3. easye418

    easye418 Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2015 Texas

    So when the keg doesn't need to carb up? I would figure it'd need to sit a little bit in order for the c02 to flow through.
     
  4. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    It is carbonated from the brewery. It is like a large can of beer. The cooler line is in the right place now. That tower insulation is doing nothing for you. It needs to be out against the tower, the way it is now the cool air can get between it and the tower for a net effect of nothing.
     
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  5. bkbuilds

    bkbuilds Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Doug, what do you suggest as a replacement for that insulation? Mine looks the same as easey....
     
  6. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Welcome over from the Micromatic forums. You can try to attach it with glue, or find something that fits tight. Old School koozies are close and can be cut to fit well. You cannot fill the space because you need to leave room for return air from the tower cooler you are going to install.
     
  7. bkbuilds

    bkbuilds Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2015 Pennsylvania

  8. beerdumper

    beerdumper Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2015 California

    Doug if their is a pressure gap from having too much restriction then yes it will in fact cause the first pour to come out foamy. I am 100% sure that the length of his line given its 3/16 id that it is too much. Now could their be other issues? Of course, and honestly if I go in an account the first thing I make sure is that the temp checks out cause other wise messing with anything else is pointless.

    Long story short if you still see bubbles forming in the beerline, if you notice they are coming directly out of the keg the reason that the first pour is bad but the next immediately after is fine is that you are pouring off what is in the beerline and then drawing directly from the keg. Depending on the severity of the pressure gap you will see those gas pockets form more quickly the worse it is.
     
  9. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    We can agree to disagree. If you have bubbles moving you aren't balanced. Long lines slow the flow but have no impact on balancing IMO. I have 10' lines and pour perfect beers all day long. I could be using shorter lines but I don't need a 8 second pint.
     
  10. beerdumper

    beerdumper Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2015 California

    Doug it's not a disagreement, it's a fact. Not all lines are the same restriction, not all people are at the same elevation, so maybe in some instances 10' works. I can't claim anything about your system because I have never seen it. All I can tell you is that you can have too long of lines and in fact it will cause improper pour issues.

    I understand what you have works for you so I won't try and convince you other wise. What I do want you to understand is that restriction length affects beer off gasing just as much as carbonation or temperature. I don't mean you any disrespect.
     
  11. bkbuilds

    bkbuilds Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2015 Pennsylvania

    I have been fighting foam since I bought my Kegerator and today I replaced lines with 10' and put Perlick faucets on and my issues are gone.
     
  12. easye418

    easye418 Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2015 Texas

    @DougC123 @beerdumper @bkbuilds

    I just got a new keggy. It was out of the store cooler for about 30-35 minutes, I waddled it in my house and tapped it. Foamy, but it probably is still shook up from the transport. So I won't judge foam yet.

    One thing I did notice was that the first glass I poured was coming in around 43ish degrees. Could it possibly of heated up that quickly in 84 degree weather for around 30 minutes?
     
  13. bkbuilds

    bkbuilds Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2015 Pennsylvania

    What is the temp of your distributer's cooler?... My el'cheapo kegerator is performing well now that I'm running MicroMatic regulator, 10' line, MM shank, Perlick Faucet. Going down to the bar to pour a beer and watch the second half of the Cavs Bulls game =)
     
  14. bkbuilds

    bkbuilds Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Kicked the trainer keg tonight. My Cavs lost so that sucked. Here's to a better week right!
     
  15. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut


    Don't fear. Try it now.
     
  16. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    My thoughts aren't based on my system alone, they are based on what has worked for many people over a long period of time. I have never seen a long line cause any issue with breakout. Slow pours? Sure. No breakout or foam from line length. If bubbles are accumulating and moving while the system is at rest it is unbalanced. The bubbles make pockets, which become the first beer foam.
     
  17. easye418

    easye418 Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2015 Texas

    @DougC123

    First foam is considerably better. Down to maybe 50% foam. Second is perfect.

    Temperature down to 41.5 in the keg... I'm wondering if my unit just needs sometime to cool that baby down, which is fine.
     
  18. beerdumper

    beerdumper Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2015 California

    Easy, I have seen some beer pour fine above 40F but it's rather rare and some are just more temperature or pressure sensitive.

    Doug, are using perlick ventless faucets?
     
  19. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    I do, yes. 525SS.
     
  20. bkbuilds

    bkbuilds Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2015 Pennsylvania

    I just installed 630ss on mine and they are by far and away better then the stock. And they look nice to boot.
     
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