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  1. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    Ok so I am in the process of brewing this recipe right now and collecting my first runnings question my brew pal is telling me to sparge with 188 degrees water seems high, any input? Iam sparging with 3 gallons


    DOUBLE IPA RECIPE 1.093/1.023 (5.5 Gal)
    Grain Bill
    14 lbs. - 2 Row Pale Malt
    1 lb. - Crystal Malt (40L)
    1 lb. - Munich Malt (10L)
    1 lb. - Carapils
    Hop Schedule (98 IBU)
    2.0 oz - Magnum (60 min.)
    1 oz - chinook (15 min.)
    1 oz - Centennial (5 min.)

    1 oz - Centennial whole leaf - Dry Hop in secondary
    1 oz cascade -dry hop 7 days
    1 oz columbus- dry hop 7 days
    1 oz centennial- dry hop 7 days
    Yeast
    Wyeast 1056 1800 ml starter
    Mash/Sparge/Boil
    Mash at 152° for 60 min.
    Sparge as usual
    Cool and ferment at 66° to 68°
     
  2. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    I sparge with 180F normally.
     
  3. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    it calculated wrong for some reason, I did it at 170
     
  4. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    170 is what you want. Any higher and you'll risk tannin extraction.
     
  5. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    yeah I figured that I don't know why it was telling me 188
     
  6. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Ideally you want the temp of the grain bed to come up to 170, which means that the sparge water should be hotter than 170. I generally batch sparge with water that's about 185 +/-. That said, it doesn't make that much of a difference, if you're a few degrees cooler the worst case scenario is that you lose a point or two of efficiency.
     
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  7. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    yeah I did 170, but anyways can I do a 90 minute boil instead of a 60, it's boiling right now but I think my effecieny was alittal low. Will doing a 90 min boil change a lot in my beer
     
  8. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Doing a 90 minute boil will boil off more water, so your post boil OG will be higher than it would be with a 60 minute boil. If you have already added your bittering hops, 90 minutes will make the beer more bitter than 60 minutes, but not very much more. The difference in utilization between 60 minutes and 90 minutes is pretty small. You're probably looking at a difference of a few IBUs.
     
  9. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    ok i did a 90, for some reason when I took a pre boil gravity it read low as hell like 1.030 low, but my post boil is perfect 1.070 what's up with that?:astonished:
     
  10. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Did you stir the wort well before taking your reading? If not then you may have been reading mostly final runnings.
     
  11. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    yeah I made sure I stir it before, yeah I don't know but my gravity is right were it's suppose to be 1.070 I just can't figure out why it read low pre boil
     
  12. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    it's actually 1.074 higher than I thought
     
  13. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    Did you adjust for temperature? Hydrometers are only accurate at 60F
     
  14. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    aw no I did not lol
     
  15. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    6 gallons of 1.030 wort would produce a 5 gallon batch of 1.036 wort. I see you didn't adjust for temp, but I thought I would use that as an example anyway.

    Pre-boil gravity is a good tool and it is a simple equatuion to figure out your post boil gravity.
    If you collect 6 gallons at 1.030 and are going to boil it down to 5 gallons then this is the simple math:
    (Gravity points) x (Preboil volume) So in your case: 30 x 6 = 36 or 1.036 wort after boil
    (post boil volume) 5

    I use pre-boil gravity often and think it can be a useful tool. I used to have a very sporadic efficiency and would often adjust my hops based on gravity readings, or sometimes add in other fermentables such as a little bit of DME to get my gravity up.
     
  16. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    yeah but my pre boil gravity was 1.074, is it just because I didn't factor in my original temp?
     
  17. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    I know, I was just putting that info out there for the hell of it.
     
  18. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    Correct. There are correction calculators on the internet, such as http://hbd.org/cgi-bin/recipator/recipator/hydrometer.html that can get you pretty close to accurate with the wort temperature.
     
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