NERAX North November 12-14

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  1. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    http://nerax.org/wp_nerax/nerax-north/

    Unconfirmed reports of some stellar brews to be pouring from the handpulls at the always amazing NERAX North sessions in Haverhill next week.
    Rumored to be in the house:
    Medusa Albatross w Grapefruit
    Clown Shoes Space Cake w Mosaic
    Smoke and Dagger w chipotle peppers, cinnamon sticks and cocoa nibs
    Steal this can
    Aeronaut Orangutan skies and a Black IPA
    Tiny Revel Cwtch -- CBOB
     
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  2. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    What about UK ales or more sessionable styles?

    Is there a list somewhere yet?
     
  3. Jason

    Jason Founder (0) Aug 23, 1996 Massachusetts

    Exactly ... I don't go to NERAX for American cask ale. Though if an American brewer is trying something a bit more subtle or they have a stout or porter I usually give it a go.
     
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  4. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I'm not sure if you attended the most recent event this past spring, but unfortunately this is the way the fest has been trending. It was apparent the list was more hop driven, with multiple US offerings, and less UK offerings.

    I feel exactly the same way though, this is a nice niche event, and the only time during the year in which I can drink properly cared for UK cask ales in large quantities. Back in the day, it was a nice change of pace to see a Smutty Big A IPA on cask, which I'd sample, and then move on to more UK ales or maybe a bitter from a local US brewery.

    Sadly, cask is oftentimes seen as a vehicle for brewer's to use for dry hopping or other random ingredients such as coconut...etc.
     
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  5. Jason

    Jason Founder (0) Aug 23, 1996 Massachusetts

    Even many of the UK casks have been hit up with American hops, unfortunately I was not able to make NERAX in the spring. If they have 8 or so really good UK casks then it is worth my time.

    While I don't mind the dry-hopping, most brewers don't get it and dry-hop the beer to the point of not being able to taste anything else and usually the beer looks like shit. It completely missing the point and that is not opinion but fact. ;-)

    As for the odd ingredients, I don't mind it though most don't know how to be subtle with that method of flavoring either. Give me a mild or bitter that is under 5.0% and I'm good.
     
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  6. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (2,193) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I can't stand American IPAs on cask. The imperfections that are masked by heavy late hop additions tend to show up when the beer is served warmer and the extra hopping in the cask just adds vegetal notes that I find unpleasant. Agreed on finding quality bitters and milds. Just wish I didn't have to make a semi-annual trek to find them.
     
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  7. jbertsch

    jbertsch Pooh-Bah (2,874) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    I prefer my hops on CO2. I too often find that in American casks the excessive/extra hoppings are wasted because the cask isn’t well cared for and dispenses flat beer. A beer with no head can’t release those hop aromatics the brewer’s trying to show off so what’s the point? As much of a hop head I am, I wish casks would be left for maltier (and of course sessionable) styles.
     
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  8. PaulB

    PaulB Crusader (429) Sep 3, 2002 Massachusetts

    I like both US and UK hop forward casks and a traditional UK bitter or mild, not to mention the bomb UK ciders they bring (Gwint y draig).

    My NERAX peeve is too many beers from average NE breweries, most from Maine. Thankful for the group and their efforts to keep the fest going.
     
  9. Leebo

    Leebo Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 Massachusetts

    I look forward to this event every year. Both the great local stuff as well as the UK brews. Neither I would call average.
     
  10. krantul

    krantul Zealot (672) May 18, 2005 Massachusetts

    We had to drop out at the last minute due to some unfortunate technical issues that left us without anything ready for a cask fill, so no Albatross. NERAX North is probably my favorite beer event, so I'm a bit bummed about that, though still looking forward to attending.

    I've enjoyed quite a lot of nice American IPAs on cask (Sculpin w/Simcoe at Stoddard's recently was very nice), though admittedly less DIPAs.
     
  11. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    NERAX in general is my favorite beer fest, been going for 13 or 14 years now.
    Generally I try to stick with British styles, though there have been some fantastic American ones over the years.
    A few times the best thing on, hasn't been beer at all, but cider (usually the Welsh ones) and once a mead.
    I'm planning on going Saturday.
    Mostly they haven't been posting the full list ahead of opening, often I don't know what's going to be there until I get there.
    Sad that Medusa isn't going to make it, but I'm sure there will be plenty of interesting beers.
    That said, I don't care for the ones that are usual things, with something weird in there, or dry hopped to heck. I want the base beer, so I can compare cask to non cask, or altered slightly and with restraint.
     
  12. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I'm hearing only Welsh and English real ales for NERAX North -- no Scottish casks this year. Anybody have a beer list yet? My contacts have gone dry....

    The one UK beer I heard might be pouring (which I misspelled in the original post) is a Welsh Red Ale which is the 2015 Champion Beer of Britain. That would be a major coup for NERAX...reviews have it sounding very tasty..
    [​IMG]
     
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  13. huuvola

    huuvola Zealot (715) Oct 29, 2005 Massachusetts

    I don't agree with this completely. I attended a Friday night session at NERAX this year and there were a TON of U.K. beers and ciders. Yes, I think there were more U.S. offerings, but that's largely because cask beers and ciders are growing in popularity in the U.S. in the past few years. Some of the U.K. beers were definitely hop-driven, but take a trip to London these days and you'll find that trend is happening over there. I think there were still PLENTY of mild ales, bitters, porters, and other non-hoppy beers to please attendees.

    (I'm not saying that you don't have a point about hops and dry hopping. I just think it's important to note that I found at LEAST eight non-hoppy U.K. beers that were pouring perfectly and very satisfying. It's still a great, great event.)
     
  14. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Agree w/ comments about the UK cask scene morphing based on American brewing influences. I think it's a match made in heaven but understand folks concerned that it is another assault on real ale tradition -- a tradition that barely survived the spread of continental lager in the 70's/80's. Totally disagree that there isn't a place for "Trillium meets London Pride" among classic bitters/dark ruby milds etc. Had this amazing real ale at the Stockbridge tap in EDI last year....one of many old school pubs cleaned up and repurposed as a craft cask bar. The temp...low and natural carbonation...slight cask funk....took Citra to places it has never been. I think the organizers if NERAX get that some folks crave the classic and others the latest incarnation -- never seen a shortage of either at Somerville or North.

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  15. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    It's not that I think "Trillium meets London Pride" is a good or a bad idea. I don't mind having both traditional and American influenced bitters/milds for example. It's when there's fewer and fewer examples of the traditional, which I enjoy. Like with many US brewed pilsners, they're far too hoppy, and I get no pils malt character (my favorite part).

    And with a more subtle style like a mild or bitter, they can only truly shine on cask. Whereas an American IPA can do just fine with CO2, and many prefer it an IPA delivered way to being cask delivered. Heck, many US brewer's won't even bottle their bitters, and you'll only rarely see them on cask, such as Notch's mild and bitter offerings and Victory's Uncle Teddy's Bitter.

    I also only go Saturday during the day, perhaps there's other sessions where there are more UK examples on cask. I could see it making more sense to have less of these offering during the more popular sessions (albeit the organizers being at the mercy of the casks being ready).
     
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  16. Jason

    Jason Founder (0) Aug 23, 1996 Massachusetts

    I'll be there on Friday ... will be hitting up The Tap beforehand. Looking forward to a proper session. ;-)
     
  17. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Anecdotally at least, these are some comments from the NERAX festival this past spring that echo some comments above...

    And below is the list from the entire festival. I counted 98 total casks.

    28 being IPAs and 9 that were UK bitters and milds.

    That's a bit deceiving though, because blondes, "golden", and many pale ales can be session strength. And if you include those, plus US versions of these and bitters/milds (not including US pale ales, which tend to be hoppier/higher abv) that would bring the number of more "traditional" NERAX styles to 30.

    The starkest contrast to me was 22 casks labeled as some form of US IPA, and only 2 milds overall.

    I'm simply mentioning this for completeness, and will finish by saying I still love this festival, and it still is unique. My original comment said the festival is "trending" this way, but this does not mean I won't be attending (the spring one, it takes me far too long to get to Haverhill from Somerville via commuter rail).

    It's run extrememly well, and still maintains a relaxed pub-like atmosphere that I love.
     
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  18. huuvola

    huuvola Zealot (715) Oct 29, 2005 Massachusetts

    Yup. Couldn't agree more. NERAX for the win. It's the best.
     
  19. Seacoastbrewer

    Seacoastbrewer Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2012 New Hampshire

    Looks like I'll be seeing a couple of you guys there for the Saturday afternoon session!
     
  20. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    Is there a NERAX South? Or, better yet, a NERAX West? How can we make that happen?
     
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