New Beer Weekend #177

Discussion in 'The Bar' started by AzfromOz, Dec 9, 2023.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. AzfromOz

    AzfromOz Grand Pooh-Bah (3,225) Aug 22, 2020 Australia
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Ok, I know this isn't meant to start until Saturday, but it's nearly 4pm Saturday arvo here, and it's not my fault you all live on the wrong side of the planet. I have things to do tonight and a beer I want to write about here. So let's all pretend it's Saturday everywhere else and no-one gets hurt...

    So, now that we've established my chronological primacy let's move on to the beer. And speaking of primacy, there's not much more prime in the world of Gueuze than Cantillon. I don't particularly like Gueuze (spoiler alert - it turns out I do), but I grab Cantillon whenever I see it. It costs about a week's wages, but it's sometimes worth it. So on to the beer:

    In the glass, the beer tends towards copper. If I were unkind, I'd say it looks like a movie set fake beer apple cider, the kind they use to ensure actors don't turn into alcoholics while shooting endless retakes. A bubbly, bright-white head quickly disperses and leaves a thin covering atop the glass. Not helping the impression is that the beer looks thick, like there's gelatin in it, and the many large bubbles of carbonation moving slowly up the glass add weight to those thoughts. It has none of the sparkling joviality of a modern-day kettle sour; it doesn't look like a soda pour, and it doesn't effervesce like a Berliner Weisse. But it does look unique. L: 3.5

    The nose is vinous, yeasty and tart, like sour crabapples or small, overripe grapes. A touch of farmyard and fermenting hay round things off. The tartness I smell hints at what's to come, and I raise the glass to my mouth ready to pucker my lips, squeeze my eyes shut and raise the hair on my neck, expecting the tartness to pull me into its tangy, zippy embrace. S: 3.75

    As expected, the taste of sour apples, grapes and fermenting hay fills my mouth. They throw a brisk tartness at me, producing layers of salivation after each swallow, causing me to reach for another mouthful to stave off the wash of lactic acidity that rushes in with the saliva. Everything ends vinegary, a touch salty, and ever so dry. Swallowing this is like having a sour candy Warhead punch you in the mouth.

    At first, it's too much, too heady, too tart, but somehow, eventually, it all works. Maybe I become numb to the tartness, or maybe it backs off as the beer warms, but as the shock wears off, I become a junky to the tangy hit that surges through me, and I can pick out the barnyard notes, the wet hay and the musty cobwebs that inhabit the beer's DNA. Its acidity has smoothed out, and there's a delicate balance - still sharply tart, mind - that is irresistible in its command that I drink more. Like any good junky, I give in to my cravings and eagerly down more of my new poison of choice. This is a big bottle, and seemingly without noticing, I've hit my stride and am drinking it far too quickly... T: 4.25

    The mouthfeel matches the sharp acidity of the beer. Carbonation is medium, and carbonic prickle is low, but the beer snaps as you swallow it, like a cracked whip in your mouth. This is not a beer you can drink mindlessly; it simply won't let you. M: 4

    A few mouthfuls in, I thought this beer would be a chore to drink. Halfway through, I realised I'd gotten there far quicker than I had thought. By the end, I wanted more of the vinegary, salty, sharp, smooth, acidic monster of a beer that it became.

    This beer is a matter of acclimation, of letting go of the wheel and letting the beer drive. It's a masterful lesson in what makes a beer great: it challenges, it overcomes, and then it dominates the palate. This beer has an expert blender's loving hands guiding it to the Goldilocks Zone. In the end, it's neither too sour, too bracing or too barnyardy. It's juuuuuust right.

    I grab Cantillon whenever I see it. It costs about a week's wages, but it's sometimes worth it. This is definitely one of those times. O: 4.25

    Cheers!

    [​IMG]
     
    woemad, bret717, vurt and 41 others like this.
  2. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    You’re good, @AzfromOz ! We on the US East Coast have long enjoyed an advantage in starting threads (not to mention our European friends). Thanks for kicking us off (although given that it’s not even 8 am here, I was hoping to start the thread lol).

    I got up at normal time today. Rough sleep, but I also had to drop off our son for fencing. I might nosh on some breakfast before we head to the school to watch the tournament, but I figured I should squeeze in some brunch just in case. :wink:

    [​IMG]

    Prairie French Toast Brunch is a barrel aged imperial stout (12.6% ABV) with maple syrup, cinnamon, and vanilla.

    I’ve had a few French toast-inspired beers before, but perhaps none that so perfectly mirror the eponymous meal so well - in particular on the nose.

    Frankly, this is decadent, delicious, and satisfying. if I have a criticism, it’s that I don’t know that it needed the barrel aging to contribute to the overall profile, or even the massive, stout base instead of, say, a brown ale. Maybe it did, and everything is just so wonderfully complementary that nothing stands out other than the strong impression of no kidding French toast.

    I absolutely love this. Prairie has, for a long time, been among the best in the game when it comes to massive flavored beers. This one is an even better example of that than Indulge Me, which I reviewed two days ago.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30356/323805/?ba=Roguer#lists
    4.51/+3.0%

    Cheers!
     
    2beerdogs, woemad, cavedave and 36 others like this.
  3. Ozzylizard

    Ozzylizard Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,419) Oct 5, 2013 Pennsylvania
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Good day BAs! @AzfromOz - thanks for starting this thread and thanks for giving Cantillon a boost - I never see it in my area or travels.


    Today's New Breakfast Beer, thanks to @muchloveforhops3 in the BSBIF#1:

    [​IMG]

    Life Volume 1 – from Breakside Brewery. Acquired from @muchloveforhops3 in BSBIF #1. Reviewed 09/12/23 (Review 3189). Note that I use DD/MM/YY protocol.
    Undated bomber. Stored at 34 degrees at home. Served at 56.6 degrees F in a hand washed and dried Jester King snifter. The final temperature was 62.9 degrees F.
    Appearance – 3.5
    First pour – Medium Amber (SRM 12), clear.
    Body – Brown (SRM 20), opaque. Under direct light, same. When rear-lite, ruby and nearly clear.
    Head: Large (Maximum 5.2 cm, aggressive center pour), beige, high density, average retention, dropping to a 0.4 cm crown, and rocky complete cap.
    Lacing – None.
    Aroma – 4.5 – Strong toffee and a bit of caramel. No yeast, no malt, no alcohol (9.5 % ABV as marked on the label).
    Flavor – 4.5 – Begins sweet but not cloying with distinct toffee (Think Heath bar). No yeast, no malt. No dimethylsulfide or diacetyl. Weak gastric warming. No ethanol ever tasted.
    Palate – 4 – Medium; weakly syrupy; soft carbonation. As it further warms, it seems to thin out a bit.
    Final impression and summation: 4 (After deducting 0.25 point for undated personal container) Pretty good. Not too sweet and distinctly tasting of toffee. Too bad neither the bottle nor the website has any info beyond PR stuff. Still, I’d like to do a vertical on the whole series.
    Rating 4.29, rDev -0.5%

    Thanks Doug!
     
    2beerdogs, woemad, cavedave and 34 others like this.
  4. jkblr

    jkblr Grand Pooh-Bah (5,132) Nov 22, 2014 Indiana
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Good morning NBW
    Still working nights, but I have new beers in the fridge so I'll share one.
    [​IMG]
    Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Cocoa Porter

    12oz undated bottle poured into a teku glass at fridge temp 8% ABV. The beer pours dense dark brown with medium brown colored head. The head recedes to a thin ring and island. Minimal lacing. The aroma is cocoa... The taste is semisweet cocoa with muted oak and mild bitterness. The mouthfeel is thin to medium bodied with average carbonation and a mostly dry finish. Overall, good, better as it warms.

    Cheers all!
     
    2beerdogs, woemad, cavedave and 32 others like this.
  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah

    The next new style? Mexican Hot Chocolate Stout

    Generally speaking I shy away from what I consider to be Pastry Stouts. My wife on the other hand enjoys drinking what craft breweries label as Mexican Hot Chocolate Stouts (or something similar). I wonder how long until the Brewers Association adds this sort of beer style to their guidelines list?

    But what exactly ‘defines’ a beer to be a Mexican Hot Chocolate Stout? On a fairly simple level it is a beer that mimics the flavors of the Mexican Hot Chocolate drink. I personally have never had a Mexican Hot Chocolate drink but from my readings it is Hot Chocolate (with the associated chocolate flavor) but also with some spicing/flavoring added. For example, some cinnamon and hot peppers. From reading about a number of brands of Mexican Hot Chocolate Stouts it seems that some additions are:

    · Cinnamon

    · Nutmeg

    · Cocoa (e.g., nibs)

    · Vanilla

    · Hot Peppers (e.g., Chile Peppers)

    · Lactose

    · Etc.

    For today’s new beer it is a Mexican Hot Chocolate Beer but with more: also coffee added. It is Cape May Mexican Coffee Stout. A description from their website:

    “Stout brewed with coffee and spices

    ABV: 7.5%

    IBU: 50

    SRM: 35.0

    Our Mexican Coffee Stout has a satisfyingly complex grain bill comprised of seven different malts, yielding a rich and layered profile with a silky-smooth mouthfeel and a firm cocoa-like bitterness. Conditioned on fresh locally-roasted Mexican Chiapas coffee, cinnamon, guajillo peppers, and vanilla, Mexican Coffee Stout lands perfectly balanced amongst the coffee, spice, and rich stout base.”

    Will this be the sort of beer that I enjoy drinking?

    Served in my Tulip beer glass:

    Appearance:

    A very dark brown approaching black color with a BIG deep tan colored head.

    Aroma:

    Wow! An enticing combination of coffee, cinnamon, vanilla, dark chocolate, etc. aromas.

    Taste:

    The flavor follows the nose with a combination of coffee, cinnamon, vanilla, dark chocolate and a very slight hint of heat from the guajillo peppers. A low/moderate bitterness.

    Mouthfeel:

    Lucious mouthfeel with an off-dry finish.

    Overall:

    This beer is excellent.

    I gave a small pour of my beer to my wife blind. After a quick sniff she stated “smells like a Mexican Stout”. I replied yes. After taking a few sips I asked her what she thought about the beer. Her reply was “I give it a B+, it needs more spicing and vanilla”. It would seem that I favor subtlety in this beer while my wife would prefer a bit moar.

    Cheers!

    @KOP_Beer_OUtlet @rotsaruch @RobH

    [​IMG]
     
    2beerdogs, woemad, cavedave and 34 others like this.
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah

    [​IMG]
     
    2beerdogs, woemad, cavedave and 12 others like this.
  7. ESHBG

    ESHBG Pooh-Bah (2,099) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Hey now, you can keep your Christmas during summer :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  8. Whyteboar

    Whyteboar Grand Pooh-Bah (4,286) Jun 7, 2008 Michigan
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    That came to my mind too! So very weird at the time it seared into my brain.
     
  9. Whyteboar

    Whyteboar Grand Pooh-Bah (4,286) Jun 7, 2008 Michigan
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Wet hay and musty cobwebs. Barnyard notes.
    If non beer drinkers read that they must think we’re all, well, off our collective rockers to say that we *enjoy* those flavors.

    Excellent description @AzfromOz - again!
     
    2beerdogs, woemad, MacMalt and 6 others like this.
  10. ESHBG

    ESHBG Pooh-Bah (2,099) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Along with this version:
     
  11. champ103

    champ103 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,296) Sep 3, 2007 Texas
    Society Pooh-Bah

    A few weeks ago a reviewed Tilquin's Oude Gueuze here. Part of my description of the aroma:

    "A musty basement like funk and earthiness rounds everything out. Almost like hay in a basement ha."

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/25923/70745/?ba=champ103#lists

    And I absolutely loved it :slight_smile: Just like I did @AzfromOz review of Cantion.

    Anyway, I have a review for a local porter coming up...
     
    2beerdogs, MacMalt, Amendm and 9 others like this.
  12. champ103

    champ103 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,296) Sep 3, 2007 Texas
    Society Pooh-Bah

    Opened a local breweries porter this late morning/early afternoon.

    Equal Parts Nocturna Porter, 7.8% ABV

    [​IMG]

    Pours a dark black color, nearly opaque. A dense tan head rises to over two fingers. Retention lasts forever and lacing for days.
    Aroma is toasted malts and baked bread. With chocolate covered cherries and berries. A surprising amount of darker fruits, but not complaining. It all works well.
    Taste wise, toasted malts, caramelized sugars. Baked bread and chocolate covered dark fruits again. The chocolate character becomes a littler bitter, which I like, along with a substantial sweetness.
    A full body that is well carbonated. The crisp carbonation at first, becomes ultra smooth as this breaths. Perfectly chewy and weighty. A very nice porter, and the high ABV for the style doesn't get in the way.

    This isn't advertised as a "Imperial Porter" but the ABV boarders on that for me. I would like this to be a bit less in ABV (I just looked this up on their website, they do call it an Imperial Porter there, but not on the can), but that is just me. Overall a nice example of the style, that has a unique darker fruit character than most, without being over done in that regard.

    Overall score is 4.04, an A- for me. Equal Parts is always solid.
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/44383/580493/?ba=champ103#lists

    Also, baked some wings while watching my Fighting Illini take on Tennessee in some college basketball.

    [​IMG]
     
    2beerdogs, woemad, cavedave and 30 others like this.
  13. Whyteboar

    Whyteboar Grand Pooh-Bah (4,286) Jun 7, 2008 Michigan
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Think I saw that and was thinking the same thoughts about what I wrote earlier- but this time it was the “musty cobwebs” that really stuck out for me.
    Cheers to weird and delicious!
     
    2beerdogs, woemad, MacMalt and 7 others like this.
  14. beergoot

    beergoot Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,310) Oct 11, 2010 Colorado
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Boiler Brewing Co. -- Imperial 3-Way Chocolate Stout
    Double mash imperial stout conditioned on cacao nibs
    ABV: 12%; pouring temperature: 50 °F; bottling info: n/a
    Source: Tavour

    [​IMG]

    4.8/5 rDev +2.1%
    look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

    Deep, dark, opaque brown pour; looks thick and viscous; thick, lasting light brown head, semi-creamy texture. Rich smell of milk chocolate and cocoa powder. A truly amazing taste; rich milk and dark chocolate flavors; sweet but not cloying; light sense of underlying booziness; strawberry hint. Amazingly dense and velvety body; rich and sticky; soft and spongy.

    Rarely have I come across a dark beer so thick and rich in sensory pleasure. The taste and mouthfeel and simply incredible. I noticed in a description of the base 3-Way stout that the brewery does use three kinds of chocolate, but it is a secret as to what they are. There is no secret that this is a world class beer (in my eyes).

    ----------------------------------------------------------

    ...I visited the brewery just over a year ago...it's hidden away in the basement of an old office building in Lincoln, NE, but every beer I've tried from them has been top-notch.
     
    2beerdogs, woemad, cavedave and 26 others like this.
  15. cjgiant

    cjgiant Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,584) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
    Society Pooh-Bah

    Next time we're visiting the major city a little north of Lincoln, I'll have to be on the lookout for their beers. Either that or maybe we'll make a little day trip to seek out the old office building.
     
  16. beergoot

    beergoot Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,310) Oct 11, 2010 Colorado
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    ...I would highly recommend a visit...it's a small operation (space-wise) but produces some amazing beers...I could kick myself for not grabbing some to-go beers October 2022 (I was on my way to meet @GreenBayBA for my first visit to Sheboygan), but Tavour is now offering me some of their beers...
     
    2beerdogs, bret717, MacMalt and 6 others like this.
  17. SawDog505

    SawDog505 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,922) Apr 9, 2010 New Hampshire
    Pooh-Bah

    [​IMG] Poured into a 12 oz open mouth holiday glass. Pours a very attractive hazy yellow with a half finger sticky white head that leaves thin streaks of lace with solid retention. 4.25

    Aroma is peach, passionfruit, mandarin, blueberry, white grapes, apricot, and a some grapefruit rind. 4.25

    Taste follows peach, passionfruit, mandarin, blueberry, white grapes, apricot, and grapefruit.4.25

    Mouthfeel is above arerage, maybe a little dry, soft gentle carbonation, and at 8% it has big flavor but easy going down. 4.25

    Overall this one has a lot going on and I enjoyed it. A little more bitter than most in this style these days. 4.25
     
    2beerdogs, woemad, cavedave and 25 others like this.
  18. MadMadMike

    MadMadMike Grand Pooh-Bah (3,465) Dec 11, 2020 France
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    First go at the Ellon, Scotland brew!
    Canned November 28, making it 10 days brewery to me. Daaaaamn.,

    500 mL blue & silver tall boy dumped into a tumbler in Toulouse, France. Chizzy chickaboom spooch oozes up out an orange sud.
    Good floral stank zips in the nose. Dunka funknip too.
    Taste booms cascades of hops that follows itself to lychees and grapefruits mating.
    Mouth is aggressive, and the carbonation is deserved.
    Overall - Man! This is so much better a beer than anything else in its class.
    What’s not to like here?
     
    2beerdogs, woemad, cavedave and 26 others like this.
  19. GreenBayBA

    GreenBayBA Grand Pooh-Bah (4,265) Aug 30, 2015 Wisconsin
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    [​IMG]
    Toppling Goliath Brewing Kentucky Brunch Brand Stout. 2023. At the brewery. Perfect black color. I didn't see much foam, other than a brown ring. The smell is a perfect blend of maple, coffee, chocolate, and bourbon. The taste is strong with maple. Almost too strong. Chocolate follows, with coffee, bourbon, and vanilla. It is very sweet. The mouthfeel is thick, smooth, lucious, and full. Very nice. Overall, this is a wonderful beer, but there is too much maple flavor for it to be one of my favorite beers.
     
  20. tolar111

    tolar111 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,094) Aug 17, 2008 New York
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I picked up the Samuel Adams mix pack, primarily for the Old Fezziwig, but I was also looking forward to Samuel Adam's take on the Cold IPA

    [​IMG]

    3.68/5 rDev +1.9%
    look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
    The look is a clear golden color, with a white head that quickly settles to a ring of foam around the rim of the glass. The smell is of grains and grassy hops. The taste is good, with a mild hop forward flavor and a pleasant bitterness. Not a lot of depth, but enjoyable. The feel is right on the money, just enough carbonation to spread the taste and smell, without having too much bite. Overall, I liked this beer, exciting, no, satisfying, yes. If this beer were available in 6 or 12 packs, I'd buy again. As I finished this review, I checked the ABV and saw that it was 6.2%, I expected 5%, so bonus points for that
     
    2beerdogs, woemad, bret717 and 28 others like this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.