New Beer Weekend #77

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  1. SawDog505

    SawDog505 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,922) Apr 9, 2010 New Hampshire
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    [​IMG] It is time for my favorite weekly thread. Crack a new beer and let us hear your thoughts on it. I will give you an example. This beer is brewed by Finback it is a 7.5% NEIPA called No Fun.

    Poured into a 13 oz Teku glass, I have been struggling to find a date on it, but I would say canned in the last 3 weeks because I have not seen it at the store until yesterday. Pours a milky hazy yellow with a finger sticky white head that leaves some thin streaks of lace, with nice retention. LOOK? 4.75

    I get passionfruit, pineapple, peach, tangerine, and apricot. AROMA or SMELL? 4.5

    Passionfruit, pineapple, peach, tangerine, and apricot really well balanced. TASTE? 4.5

    Soft gentle carbonation almost creamy, not sticky or dry, drinks bigger than average in bod, and at 7.5% which is close to double IPA territory extremely easy going down, but loaded with flavor. MOUTHFEEL? 4.75

    This is a very impressive beer. I would highly recommend giving this one a shot. Finback just keeps delivering excellent New England IPAs single or double they are consistent and always a excellent beer experience. OVERALL? 4.5 So please pull up a chair and tell us about a NEW BEER. Cheers all.
     
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  2. Mdog

    Mdog Pooh-Bah (2,539) Jan 7, 2004 Minnesota
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    Thanks to SawDog505 for the start.

    This cold MN morning calls for a pilsner, why? Why not.

    Insight Avant
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    Appearance: Clear yellow, good head.

    Smell: Mineral-rocks, grassy, kind of "dry".

    Taste: Cracker malt, then grassy and floral notes. Some honey sweetness but stays crisp and clean feeling.

    Overall: This double dry-hopped pilsner from a local Minneapolis brewery is nice and tasty. Nice combination of honey sweetness and grassy hops. Not over-the-top hoppy or aromatic from the dry hopping, which was a little surprising.
     
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  3. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Grand Pooh-Bah (5,247) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    Good morning all and thanks for kicking things off today @SawDog505 !

    This beer marked a milestone for me. Purchased in part from hype and high praise, I feared I made a mistake when people began commenting about it here sadly after my purchase. I hoped cellaring it would help with the noted issues with this beer, but sadly it did not.

    Foreign Exchange Aliena

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    Bottle Notes:
    Brewed and packaged (on behalf of Foreign Exchange) by Church Street Brewing Company (Itasca, Illinois). 500 ml, 16.9 oz, 12% abv. Imperial Stout brewed with Madagascar Vanilla Beans. Purchased at Capones in July, 2020, intentionally (based on reviews of this beer) and properly cellared until November 17, 2021, refrigerated until today.

    Appearance:
    Very thick pour, pitch black, no head or carbonation, black base, murky white buildup on the bottom of the snifter with close to half the bottle poured. 2.0

    Aroma:
    100% Vanilla beans, nothing else. Very strong, nothing necessarily wrong with the beans, just one note. 2.5

    Taste: Vanilla, massive doses. Can't taste anything beyond it, 10, 20 and 30 minutes after opening. Tastes like I'm drinking a bottle of McCormack's Pure Vanilla Extract. No balance whatsoever. 1.25

    Mouthfeel: Looked and felt like the crude oil pictured during the opening credits of The Beverly Hillbillies. No carbonation, just a very thick creamy body, comparable to phlegm, matched in absurdity by an inordinate amount of sweetness. Goes beyond not being in my wheelhouse, massive doses of sweet vanilla the lone flavor, leaves a very sweet aftertaste. Didn't really taste much alcohol via the 1/5 or so of the bottle I tried before aborting. 1.75

    Overall: I gave this about 30 minutes to warm up and perhaps improve but it did not, so stopped the review between 3-4 oz in and drained poured the rest. This should not have been released IMO, just not an enjoyable experience. 1.25

    Going to give my palate a thorough cleansing and return later today with the "vanilla" pairing I had initially planned for Sunday.

    Word to your Mother
     
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  4. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    That's a public service announcement if ever I saw one!
     
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  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Do you have a favorite blizzard beer?

    We had our first snowfall of Winter 21-22 yesterday (but not a blizzard per se); only a couple of inches of snow fell with a quick hit storm.

    But this snowy aspect brings us to today’s beer: Troegs Blizzard of Hops Winter IPA.

    So whazzup with this Winter IPA?

    Troegs is ‘saying’:

    We created this Winter IPA to toast hop growers around the world for another successful harvest. This storm of hoppy citrus and pine notes is a bright reminder the end of the Hop Cycle is only the beginning.

    ABV: 6.4%

    Availability: Hop Cycle

    Color: Hazy Gold

    Grain: Pilsner, Unmalted Wheat, White Wheat

    Hops: Centennial, Chinook, El Dorado

    Yeast: Ale”

    https://troegs.com/beer/blizzard-of-hops/

    The bottle label is not 100% consistent with the above verbiage in that Galaxy hops are also listed.

    Nothing there really proclaims “blizzard” to me but this beer does indeed read tasty.

    But how does it taste for my palate?

    Served in my Spiegelau IPA glass:

    Appearance:

    Pours a golden color with a two finger white head.

    Aroma:

    I am up a combination of citrus and an aspect that reminds me of juicy.

    Taste:

    The flavors follow the nose with a combination of citrus and juicy. There is a notable bitterness to this beer.

    Mouthfeel:

    A light-medium body and a dry finish.

    Overall:

    This IPA is very good!

    Cheers!

    @KOP_Beer_OUtlet @rotsaruch @RobH

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  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Maybe Tom Hanks can provide a tip here?

    Sorry to hear about this bad drinking experience (and after all the planning/effort you took here).

    Cheers!
     
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  7. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    This description just did me in...:confounded:
     
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  8. SawDog505

    SawDog505 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,922) Apr 9, 2010 New Hampshire
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    [​IMG] Poured into a 13 oz Teku glass canned on 12/13/21. Pours a very attractive orange yellow with a finger sticky white head that leaves plenty of thin lines with excellent retention. 4.5

    Aroma is white grapes, apricot, peach, mango, and grapefruit rind. 4

    Taste follows grapes, peach, apricot, mango, and a little grapefruit bitterness. 4

    Mouthfeel is above average, maybe a little dry, soft gentle carbonation, and at 8.5% it goes down easy enough, but loaded with flavor. 4.25

    Overall this is solid for sure, but was hoping for more. So many people rave about these guys and always solid, but never dazzle me personally. 4
     
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  9. lordofthewiens

    lordofthewiens Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,225) Sep 17, 2005 New Mexico
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    Thanks @SawDog505 for getting this thread started today. It's also one of my favorites.
    A quiet weekend ahead, then next week we're traveling to Florida to visit our snow bird relatives. Other than Zoom, we haven't seen them in some time.
    My new beer for today is Unrefined Shugga from Lagunitas, a strong ale brewed with whole cane sugar. ABV is 10%.
    The beer is a clear cherry amber color. There is a small off-white head that retains well and leaves some pretty lace.
    Aroma is muted. Citrus, pine, and brown sugar.
    Brown sugar taste, grapefruit, pine.
    A nice bitter finish.
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  10. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Good afternoon, Weekenders! I'm more than an hour into my first beer of the day (despite clocking in at a modest 6% ABV). I'm quite happy to report that while my beer also has vanilla, I did not have anything remotely like the experience @ChicagoJ had with his. Sorry to hear that "beer" was so bad, but at least you gave us a memorable review! :grinning:

    Today's 1st new beer is Breakfast at Tiffany's, Outer Light's Baltic Porter with Haitian vanilla and blackstrap molasses.

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    Of course, with the added vanilla and the name, you might think this is a breakfast or dessert beer: sweet and rich. You'd be wrong, as this presents as a really well balanced, straightforward, and delicious Baltic Porter.

    The vanilla is entirely complementary. I notice it, but it doesn't stick out, like seeing your kid perform as part of a chorus. The molasses amplifies the roasty character of the malt, taking it to what I would call moderate strength: less roasty than many in the style, but noticeable, with full bodied character.

    Overall, this is delightful. I'd argue you could probably create a very similar brew without the additives, but they definitely work together. The only odd thing worth noting is a cinnamon note (in particular on the nose), an ingredient not mentioned on the label, but pointed out in the brewer's tasting notes upon the beer's release. It's not bad, it's just a touch strange; I suspect it's due to the interplay between the molasses and vanilla.

    (Other odd things from the brewer's notes: they liken it to French toast, which I absolutely do not get; and they state it is Tahitian vanilla, whereas the can clearly states Haitian.)

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/38293/582082/?ba=Roguer#review
    4.02 / only review/rating

    Cheers!
     
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  11. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    Hello, NBW 77. I’ve been digging sour beers lately and today while I was at my store discussing interests with one of the guys there, he offers me a store picked 6 pack of sours. 6 pints for 23$, all the same brewery; Connecticut Valley Brewing Company out of Windsor, CT. I’ve never had anything from them before, but they have come highly regarded and reviewed well, so it was a no brainer. So, here goes the first one; Plum Crazy Ale. [​IMG]

    From the brewer: “Introducing all new Plum Crazy Ale Sour. It’s a 5.5% kettle sour that takes you a step further down the path of tartness; slightly increasing both the acidity and the quantity of fruit to provide a more puckering, flavorful experience. A bursting plum aroma hits you from the first crack of the can, before a pleasant tart flavor greets you on the first sip, bringing with it a balancing sweetness. Perfect for day drinking and day dreaming!”

    Look: Pours a beautiful ruby red tinted amber in my new Prairie glass from my buddy Rick @Hinda65. An aggressive pinkish white head, rising to the top and falling quickly to a thin ring that maintains throughout the pour. Not much lacing to speak of.

    Aroma: Has a very funky, acidic, tart fruit aroma. I’m not sure the nose is going to nail down any fruit in particular here but it is a jammy, seedy, fresh fruit note on the backend.

    Taste: Its tart when it hits the tongue, not off putting but the sour base is definitely present. Notes of ripe plumb, acidic funk, and sweet malt carry me through the bill.

    Feel: This is a very soft beer. It definitely drinks like a fruit juice, very mild carbonation, crisp on the finish. Delightful.

    Overall: I feel this was a simple flavor concept, not over done in any one way. It is one dimensional but the flavors were good and I did enjoy the beverage. I’m going to go 3.75 across the board here.

    Cheers, fellas.
     
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  12. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,601) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    Seems like vanilla needs a brewer with an exceptionally deft hand and a sense of subtlety when using it as an adjunct. I've had some beers where it was used and it was perfectly balanced with the other flavor aspects of the beer, and then I've had beers like this that were just absolute vanilla bombs. Unfortunately, I think I encountered the latter more than the former. Granted, it sounds like there were more issues with this beer than just heavy handedness when it came to vanilla.
     
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  13. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    New Beer #2 disappointed me (well, I'm still drinking it, so I guess it's in the process of disappointing me ... ), because there's a truly great beer here simply lacking in execution. It's the Trevor Lawrence of beer: maybe it's freaking awesome, but I can't tell because of the presentation.

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    Jackie O's Abandon the Halogens is a 14.5% imperial stout with a ton of honey, some lactose, a touch of smoked malts, and aged in bourbon barrels for 14 months.

    This beer is all about three things (the good, the bad, and the interesting): the bourbon, the flatness, and the honey.

    Wait, the honey? I thought honey got fermented out!

    Normally, that's the case. Here, I don't know if they added the honey very late, or simply added so much that not all of it got fermented out, but there is an undeniable honey-like sweetness on the palate, completely different from other beers brewed with honey (e.g. Hopslam).

    I call the honey "interesting," because it's not bad, and it's not over the top, but the resulting beer is still sweeter than I expected.

    The bourbon is, quite simply, awesome - except perhaps for its impact on the nose. It's a wonderful nose, but the strength of the bourbon is so prominent that picking out other individual aromatics is a little difficult. I swirled and sniffed this one quite a bit, hunting for the words to describe the nose - far more normal.

    The bad, of course, is the flatness. You can see from the picture - immediately after pouring - that there's really no head at all. That doesn't always translate to a flat experience on the palate, but in this case, it does. It's not completely flat, by any means, but it absolutely lacks the liveliness and bite necessary to best translate the flavors to the palate.

    There's really no hint of the smoked malt on the palate, so that's essentially an addition to the beer without an impact.

    Overall, I'd be really curious to try this one again, in particular to see if the flatness was just a batch issue. There's a really damn good beer here hiding in plain sight, but the mouthfeel - far more than the excess honey sweetness - drags it down. Good, and still very tasty, but not outstanding.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1432/549787/?ba=Roguer#review
    3.89 / -7.4%
     
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  14. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,601) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    Perhaps I'm not the most formidable foodie on BA, but I don't think I've heard of Haitian vanilla before. Seems like whenever a vanilla bean's nationality is discussed, it always turns out to be from Madagascar.
     
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  15. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    I always wonder about the type of vanilla used as well. As in bean v.s. extract or maybe even place of origin. Just a though. Cheers.
     
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  16. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,601) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    "...the Trevor Lawrence of beer..." I almost shot coffee out my nose. :rofl:
     
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  17. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    It depends on the goal, too. Take the Modern Times Beastmaster stouts. They're supposed to feature vanilla, and they do, but they're not like drinking vanilla extract.

    On the other hand, you have the beer I reviewed earlier today, where the vanilla is entirely complementary.

    When a brewer takes the former approach, where they are intentionally highlighting the vanilla, they run the risk of what you described a "vanilla bomb." I've still never had one like what @ChicagoJ described; that sounded rank.
     
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  18. GreenBayBA

    GreenBayBA Grand Pooh-Bah (4,265) Aug 30, 2015 Wisconsin
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    Very Sappy. Brewed by Tree House Brewing. Courtesy of @azuelke and @jrc1093. Nice white head, crowning a beautiful Ajax/Mr. Peanut yellow/orange hazy color. Perfect for a NEIPA. The smell is grapefruit, orange, tropical fruits, and pine. The flavor is freshly-sliced mango with fruit dip, grapefruit juice, piney, with a delicious slight bitterness. The mouthfeel is smooth, juicy, sparkly, with medium carbonation. Overall, this beer is another work or art by Tree House Brewing. It is incredibly juicy, but unique enough, with a pleasant bitterness, to drink after another juicy Tree House Brewing IIPA, without feeling like you are simply experiencing more of the same.
     
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  19. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    The majority of vanilla we use is from Madagascar (which means that it's kind of pointless marketing to advertise that your vanilla is from Madagascar :wink: ).

    However, there are a number of other countries that produce vanilla. I believe Indonesia is the 2nd most popular. I wouldn't be surprised if Haiti is one of them, and when breweries are going out of their way to advertise the source of the vanilla, it's reasonable to surmise they believe in at least some amount of terroir with the bean.
     
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  20. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,601) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    Hello, NBW,

    Right now, it's a moderately breezy and partly cloudy 32° outside. I was motivated to start NBW on Friday, for the following:
    BEGINS SKIPPABLE WEATHER RANT:
    My fair city got it's biggest snowfall it's received thus far this winter on Thursday night. I had previously agreed to cover an extra shift in addition to my own at my workplace. I drove a shuttlebus through constant and increasing wet, slushy snowfall on the 1st shift, fortunately only having one "tank slapper" slide, when no one was on board and there was no oncoming traffic, but it was a long shift of stressful driving, not including the usual Karens and Kens that don't understand why we have to run things differently than, say, summer of 2019, or, indeed, during a snowstorm in any damn year. Then, the next shift, I had to climb into a couple small John Deere tractors that require something along the line of John Cleese's Silly Walk to get into if you're a somewhat tall individual and either broom or drop crystal de-icer on all the sidewalks and crosswalks. By 7pm, when I'm waiting at the bus stop for home, I'm tired, sore, and possibly a little deaf from the diesel engines of the tractor that are mounted directly behind me.

    Well, said bus, scheduled to arrive at 7:05 (and usually arriving approx. 4-5 minutes later), never shows. Did I mention I'm standing in what for the last 2hrs has become freezing rain? Finally another bus comes, the one that goes from the airport, through the western suburb that contains two big tribal casinos and a prison, and then back to the airport, before finally going into downtown Spokane. Normally, this route would add about 40 minutes to my ride home. Thursday night, it was 90 minutes, with all the sights, sounds ans smells of drunk, deeply unwashed folks who, despite not having a pot to piss in, are still going out to the casinos to throw away even more money. The smell of stale booze, clothing saturated with cigarette smoke, and unwashed ass is quite pungent. It increases as we pass two other, wrecked busses, casualties to streets that by now resemble polished glass, and we take on their passengers as well. A 40 minute ride back to where I had started takes 90 minutes. I get back downtown just in time to hit Iron Goat and be told that the kitchen has just closes. I really didn't even want beer at that point, I wanted something hot to eat. So, I frustration-drink a couple mugs of Buzzsaw McThunder and proceed to gingerly step/skate through the ice around the freeway and up the hill to my place. Normally, it's about a 10 minute walk, this time it takes about 25 minutes, on feet by now screaming about the uncomfortable boots I've been wearing for 14hrs.
    END RANT:
    After Thursday, there was no fucking way I would go out yesterday, so last evening, I had myself an "Italian pilsner" from Icicle Brewing, called One In Eight. It was brewed in honor of breast cancer awareness, with the proceeds going to charity, and was brewed in collaboration with Seattle's Cloudburst Brewing. Brewed with Idaho Gem hops:
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    It was...decent. Quite drinkable, in a mildly herbal and dry way, but not terribly memorable, and a bit hazy for something marketed as a pilsner. I'd drink it on tap again, and it's definitely brewed for a great cause but it's not something I would seek out.

    Back with at least one new beer today.
     
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