New Bottle Shop suggestions round 2

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by msigona85, Jan 18, 2014.

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  1. msigona85

    msigona85 Zealot (504) Jun 16, 2008 New York

    I'm doing some more market research for a bottle shop in cny. NYS liquor authority requires 50% of my floor space to be dedicated to food items. I won't be able to compete with the prices of the local supermarkets, so I plan to carry hard to find/specialty foods. Also foods that pair well with beer and locally sourced options. Does anyone have a hard time finding certain ingredients or really enjoy certain snacks with there beer?
     
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  2. beerdedking

    beerdedking Grand Pooh-Bah (3,634) Oct 15, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I don't understand, I've been in NY liquor stores with a total of zero food choices...some weird statute concerning beer only?
     
  3. msigona85

    msigona85 Zealot (504) Jun 16, 2008 New York

    Liquor stores in NY can only sell wine and liquor. If you want to sell beer for off premises consumption and are not a restaurant, nys requires 50% of your floor space to have food items. I spoke with the liquor authority and asked about some local places that don't sell any food items(not naming anyone in the process) and just have beer. She told me that they were operating illegally and asked if I would like to submit a formal complaint. Of course I didn't.
     
  4. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    I'd go with extremely expensive non-perishable stuff. Caviar, White and black Truffel, That kind of stuff that you can't get at a supermarket, the turnover will be low and the profits high.
     
  5. Givemebeer

    Givemebeer Savant (1,219) Apr 6, 2013 Vermont

    Be sure to get sauces and food made by breweries. For example - Yuengling makes bbq sauces and Dogfish Head (I think it is) has pickles.
     
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  6. jucifer1818

    jucifer1818 Initiate (0) May 15, 2011 Florida

    fancy cheese, chocolates, deserts, sauces, jared hummus, crackers, and candies are all good options. Its what ABC does down here in Florida. It might be hard to get HALF of the store to hold all that stuff however.........but it has potential. depends on store size really.
     
  7. Mulder531

    Mulder531 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 Massachusetts

    whats the difference between a liquor store and a bottle shop?
     
  8. msigona85

    msigona85 Zealot (504) Jun 16, 2008 New York

    In ny beer cannot be sold at the same location as wine/liquor
     
  9. ifnkovhg

    ifnkovhg Zealot (694) Aug 12, 2008 California

    Bottle shops carry the high-end craft brews and wines, etc.
     
  10. ifnkovhg

    ifnkovhg Zealot (694) Aug 12, 2008 California

    How come?
     
  11. xensure

    xensure Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2011 Massachusetts

    If you are looking to stick with the Craft idea I think the following foods/items have really interesting cultures unto-themselves that are similar to the Craft Beer Culture.

    Cheeses,
    Olive Oils,
    Balsamic Vinegars,
    Coffee Beans,
    Chocolates,
    Real Maple Syrups,
    BBQ Sauces,
    Marinades,
    Ice Creams,
    Spices,
    Flours.

    I am not sure if it counts as a food, but some home brewing supplies might also sell well. Different types of malts as well as maybe some fresh whole flower hops. Yeast and spices to brew with as well. Not so much the buckets and other equipment.

    I would also recommend form a personal level to include craft ciders in to your bottle selection. I think this is the next emerging market in the alcohol culture. Check out Virtue Cider as a great example of the interesting things coming out of the that growing industry.
     
  12. Mulder531

    Mulder531 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 Massachusetts

    thanks... and i thought Massachusetts laws archaic.
     
  13. msigona85

    msigona85 Zealot (504) Jun 16, 2008 New York

    Hey, at least we get happy hour
     
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  14. mikeburd1128

    mikeburd1128 Maven (1,409) Oct 28, 2011 New Jersey

    Archaic laws.
     
  15. Loganyoung

    Loganyoung Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2011 Georgia

    I like the idea of coffee beans. I personally don't drink much coffee but I know a lot of the BA's are into quality coffee to.
     
  16. abaculy

    abaculy Initiate (0) Sep 14, 2005 Michigan

    See if you can get the sauces Founders Brewing makes as well as Blis maple syrup, which is where Founders gets their maple syrup Bourbon barrels.
     
  17. socon67

    socon67 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,895) Jun 18, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah

    What would be the difference between what you do and beer distributor that sells beer and soda? A bit confused there, as easily 75% of their space is for beer.

    In any event, with that much space devoted to specialty food you really need some product turns to keep the lights on.
     
  18. msigona85

    msigona85 Zealot (504) Jun 16, 2008 New York

    Beer distributors can't sell to the public. I'm simply asking what foods would you be interested in. I don't need help with a business model
     
  19. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    Apparently you do, or you wouldn't be here asking for our help.

    Does 50% of your floor space or your sales need to be dedicated to food? Because if the former, and you don't really care about whether or not you actually sell the food, I'd make it very large, very easy to mave around packages of crap. I'm thinking 30lb bags of pork rinds.
     
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  20. tbaker397

    tbaker397 Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2013 West Virginia

    This. Or go big and just get a pallet with one giant bag.
     
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