Newcastle Brown recipe change

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by marquis, Feb 7, 2015.

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  1. busternuggz

    busternuggz Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2008 California

    So is Ram Tam literally just Landlord with caramel colouring added, or do they change the recipe some too?
     
  2. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    As far as I know. What I do know is that it's bloody gorgeous :slight_smile:
     
  3. busternuggz

    busternuggz Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2008 California

    God I hate that article.
     
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  4. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Never heard that either
     
  5. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Same here. It was one of my "gateway" beers to good beer back in college - along with stuff like Pete's Wicked, Saranac, and Magic Hat.
     
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  6. spaceman24

    spaceman24 Initiate (0) Oct 7, 2008 Texas

    I hate the idiots who buy into all of it even more.
     
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  7. CJNAPS

    CJNAPS Pooh-Bah (2,492) Nov 3, 2013 California
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    Never was a big fan of theirs
     
  8. skunkpuddle

    skunkpuddle Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2011 California

    I know an old thread is being revived and you are obviously to cool for school but here is the thing. Newcastle holds a very special place in my heart because its the first beer that I enjoyed more than a dr. Pepper. In the years since I have become a connesuir of beer and I probably will never drink a Newcastle again. I however keep a hole in my heart for Newcastle and hope that others begin their journey with the same beer. I'm pretty sure that the first time you saw a parrot make a nest you ere enthralled by the happenings. Please have the same enhrallazation when it comes to the one, the only Newcastle
     
  9. Akerstache

    Akerstache Initiate (0) Feb 20, 2015 Germany

    Despite the fact that by time I tried it was probably already watered down but Newcastle, Guinness and the likes (i.e. the general "must have Irish Pub staples") were also pretty much a gateway for me. Now I'd obviously pick a Fuller's over something like Newcastle but if you handed me a well poured pint of Guinness on draft I wouldn't say no to that.

    Not every beer I drink has to be something obscure, aged in a barrel or made by a gypsy brewer.
     
  10. ribonucleic

    ribonucleic Initiate (0) Feb 3, 2015 Utah

    I was only familiar with NBA from the famous recording of stage banter by the heavy metal band Venom in which the singer, himself from Newcastle, quaffed his "local" brew between songs and boasted "it knocks you on your fucking back".

    Later, when I found out its far-from-daunting ABV, I figured the singer must have been relying on strength-in-numbers.
     
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  11. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    It was known as "bottled insanity" in this country. Being used to session beers something as strong as NBA would certainly give you a hard time if you continued your drinking habits! Beer is intended to be drunk in volume and 20 pints of anything that strong (a not uncommon evening's ration) certainly invokes "strength in numbers" :slight_smile:
     
  12. SaisonRichBiere

    SaisonRichBiere Pooh-Bah (2,033) Mar 23, 2011 Michigan
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    Puzzling to me why anyone would need to add any kind of coloring agent to a beer. Being a homebrewer, color isn't difficult to achieve. I will take this as further proof that macros are more of a chemical concoction that anything that is 100% "brewed". Given the economies of scale involved in macro production, this doesn't surprise me, and I don't think I would be off in the assumption that much the flavor is likely from flavoring agents as well. Would that surprise anyone?

    Water, malt, yeast, hops, (caramel coloring, ___(add chemical name here)___. It just doesn't seem like brewing to me.

    I understand that you can add other ingredients to the brewing process for clarity, increased floculation, water softness, PH, etc., but the addition of non-brewing related ingredients is off to me.

    I always loved Newcastle until the last few years, when I had heard that they use coloring agents. I barely ever drink it now.
     
  13. ribonucleic

    ribonucleic Initiate (0) Feb 3, 2015 Utah

    It's hard for me to imagine 20 imperial pints of even, say, Carling not putting one's lights out but good.
     
  14. Hayden34

    Hayden34 Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2014 Georgia

    I was wondering if anyone else had made the mistake of buying Werewolf other than me!! I bought a six pack when it first came out because I was curious. I had to fight my way through that sixer and was actually relieved it was gone at the end. It was almost a drainpour. ALMOST.
     
  15. D-Nice

    D-Nice Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2013 Illinois

    Lol. Newcastle was definitely a gateway beer for me. And, at the time, I really enjoyed it. Now, it doesn't do much for me, not that I hate it. I was out at a bar a couple weeks ago and they were selling 5 dollar "mystery buckets" - 5 beers for 5 dollars, including things like Bass, Beck's Dark, Fat Tire, Newcastle - they were trying to get rid of some inventory before they got a new stock from a new distributor. The bartender let us choose instead of making it a true "mystery" and we chose a Newcastle among the (first) 5 beers. It was awful. Not because I think it's inherently awful, just because it was probably really old. Lol. But, hey, my group had 15 beers for 15 bucks that night and the Fat Tire was fairly fresh. At that price, you can afford to take a few sips and abandon it.
     
  16. parrotsnest

    parrotsnest Initiate (0) Aug 16, 2010 Washington

    a) Don't put too much stock into my username (see the username thread) b) I'm glad you have such fondness for Newcastle as it brings you nostalgia, but it's still a shitty beer. c) Dr. Pepper > Newcastle
     
  17. TEKNISHE

    TEKNISHE Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Well, I think we are an elite minority. That said, I've been prone to talking shit on this beer for over a decade now, long before I ever reached elite status.

    I feel like people buy it because it has nice branding or some other reason unbeknownst to me.
     
  18. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    I think they buy it because they like it.For the same reasoning I don't buy it because I don't like it.
     
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  19. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    The caramel is simply to get the colour right , many brewers use it to adjust batches for consistency.
    By definition all beer is made from chemicals, that's what everything is made of.We use yeast to do our fermenting for us acting as a chemical factory.We add salts to the brewing water.
     
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  20. Dan269605

    Dan269605 Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2013 Connecticut

    I used to like Newcastle, before getting into "craft". Haven't had it in a while, not my thing anymore, but I COULD still drink it if at a chain restaurant and no better choices available.
     
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