NHC Categories

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by CBOLAND17, Feb 12, 2015.

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  1. CBOLAND17

    CBOLAND17 Crusader (463) Sep 19, 2010 Pennsylvania

    So I just brewed a Rye IPA that I am entering into the National Homebrew Competition. There is no Rye IPA category so should I enter this as an American IPA or as an American Wheat/Rye Beer and specify that it is a Rye IPA? Thoughts? I am leaning towards the second choice.
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Assuming it is recognizably an IPA (i.e. very hoppy) and that the Rye character is also noticeable, then neither. Look at Specialty Beer, 23A.
     
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  3. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    How much rye does it have?

    Conventional wisdom is to enter it as a Specialty Beer or an American Wheat/Rye with Rye specified

    If it has less than 10% Rye, I would enter it as an IPA to see if the judges could even taste it with their hoity-toity palates : )
     
  4. CBOLAND17

    CBOLAND17 Crusader (463) Sep 19, 2010 Pennsylvania

    It has about 20% rye, as dictated by the BJCP guidelines for a rye IPA.
     
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Are they using the new guidelines this year? I didn't think so. If they are still using the 2008 guidelines, there is no specific Rye IPA guideline. It's Specialty, 23A. 23A even lists Rye IPA as an "incubator" style that should be entered there. You could enter as American Wheat/Rye, but if it's hopped to today's typical IPA level, you should get dinged for that.
     
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  6. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    I would suggest IPA or Specialty, but as it's been pointed out, you could be dinged for too much Rye or for too hoppy if you enter it into American Wheat/Rye. I guess honestly it depends on what you're going for in the end. Most of the beers I'm entering were something I wanted to drink and now I'm deciding what categories they fit into.
     
  7. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    As a judge, and as someone who entered a great Black IPA in the IPA category assuming it would just take the hit on color... this is a Specialty beer and should be entered as such. You will get docked more points than you would like if it is entered in IPA or American Rye.
     
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  8. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The 2008 Guidelines are being used this year. The 2014 Guidelines are in editing, and won't be out in time.
     
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  9. CBOLAND17

    CBOLAND17 Crusader (463) Sep 19, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I have decided to go with the American IPA category. I feel that this beer is most appropriate there and to be honest, you might not even pick up on the rye if you weren't told beforehand that it was brewed with rye.
     
  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    20% Rye, and you can't taste the rye? Okay, if that's so, then IPA it should be.
     
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