NHC Results.

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by JohnSnowNW, Apr 17, 2015.

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  1. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    I got my results today, can't say I'm thrilled with them. I seem to have been docked for using 644. At least, that's how it reads to me:

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    Both judges rated me two points higher in "Flavor" before they both dropped it...for whatever reason. I would also like to point out that this recipe is 70IBU...and one commented that he'd wish it was more bitter. Anyway, this beer wasn't in prime condition when they had it, as it sat in warehouse for 6 weeks, and was over 3 months from its kegged date, but I didn't expect to be docked for my yeast choice.

    Anyway, I really only entered for some feedback relating to flaws, and I wasn't docked for any. So, I at least that part was worth it...but I don't know if I'll be entering anymore comps this year. Meh.

    So, those of you who entered, how did you do?
     
  2. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

  3. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Welp. The American IPA is expected to have a relatively neutral yeast character. Just sayin.
     
  4. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I haven't gotten mine yet. I didn't place on any of my 4 though.
     
  5. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    Amen brother . . . I got screwed without getting kissed: Submitted a Rauchbier that had gold'ed the month before in a Miami comp and went very far in the BoS. Then NHC mislabelled my entry . . . the judges drank an IPA instead of a killer Rauchy. I did not submit an IPA and when I bottled from the keg there is no mistaking an IPA from a Rauchbier. Some equally screwed IPA-submitter got his entry graded as a Rauchbier.

    What can you do? But by the time you get the scoresheet the evidence is poured down the drain. My score: 21 (and only because they thought it was a really good IPA)
     
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  6. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Yeah, I don't know at all where that came from....

    Well, this is somewhat true. I suppose Heady wouldn't have fared well either.
     
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  7. epic1856

    epic1856 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2006 California

    What about the phenols? They both ticked it off in aroma. It shouldn't have any. Never used the yeast, is that where it's coming from?
     
  8. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Personally, I didn't really pick up on the phenols in this...and I have to wonder if this didn't come out of their discussing the beer together...and one convinced the other. However, I fermented quite a bit higher than I would with normal ale yeast...68° for the first few days, then ramped up to 75-ish.
     
  9. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    What was your recipe?

    I have only submitted/participated in one contest, but it looks like your judges were confused. For Overall impression, the 1st gives you "4s" across the board and then scores a 6. The 2nd gives you "2s" across the board and then gives you a 6. They both think it was "hoppy" and then the first wants "more bitterness".

    It would be interesting to drink the beer that the two of them liked/voted 1st
     
  10. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I'll be kegging/dryhopping my Troispical pale ale this weekend. I have to say, it is more saison-like than pale ale like. I'm not surprised that an IPA brewed with Trois got judged not to style.
     
  11. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    56% Golden Promise
    27% Munich (5-7srm)
    9% White Wheat
    9% Turbinado

    8 oz of hops, and hopshot, in boil/flameout split between Summit, Motueka, and Lemon Drop
    2 oz dry hop

    Mash @ 154

    OG: 1.065
    FG: 1.008

    The beer came out juicy, lemon forward, with some tropical aroma.
     
  12. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Yeah, it definitely had esters...but not a Sasion profile, for me.
     
  13. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    You prompted me to retaste it and I'm not sure what I was thinking. It seems much more neutral to me now than it seemed a few days ago.
     
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  14. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Give me just over 2 years to open, and a few more to redefine IPAs using 100% Brett, then enter it again (w/ a real Brett Strain) and watch the medals roll in.
     
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  15. atpca

    atpca Pooh-Bah (1,652) Jun 10, 2013 California
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    Got a 2nd with a blackberry sour, no score sheet yet, though one of the judges "thinks" he remembers giving it a 40.
     
  16. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Hard to imagine that this did not taste like an IPA given the grains and hops. The biggest knock seems to be "esters" and that could have been the the hops used vs actual esters. My guess is they were both looking for something more like Stone's Ruination for an IPA.
     
  17. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Yeah, I was thinking that a successful recipe would consist of:

    100% 2-row
    100 IBU
    All C Hops
    WLP001
     
  18. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    Maybe just the bad luck of being at the end of a tasting flight or whatever you call it? Maybe their taste buds were blown and they were picking up subtleties that aren't there unless you've been drinking a ton of random IPAs.
     
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  19. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Sometimes, being at the end of a flight can be an advantage...but usually not for an IPA
     
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  20. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    This plus must have Simcoe and a little malt for color. SRM 7-8.
     
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