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Night Shift Somer Weiss -- Help Me Out Here

Discussion in 'New England' started by HeyHanrahan, Oct 13, 2013.

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  1. HeyHanrahan

    HeyHanrahan Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2010 Massachusetts

    I snagged a bottle of Night Shift's Somer Weisse (batch #15) at the new Craft Beer Cellar in Westford, MA (awesome store, btw). I expected this to be a bit more on the lemony/tart/dry side of things, as with most of the Berliner Weisse styles I've tried. But this bottle was a straight-up vinegar bomb. I mean, I never -- EVER -- drain pour a beer. But this was undrinkable, and -- to my shame -- we pitched it.

    I know certain styles are a bit more on the vinegary side, but I didn't expect it from this one. It seemed a bit off, and it wasn't at all what I thought it would be. I love the Berliner Weisse style, but this tastes nothing like any of the others I've tried. Do you think my bottle was bad? Or is this beer really supposed to be more of an apple cider vinegar kind of brew?
  2. damienblack

    damienblack Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Not had this most recent batch but I've seen on here that it is a lot more vinegaric and briney than the prior batches.
  3. Skrip

    Skrip Defender (612) Oct 7, 2012 South Carolina
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    thats strange i've had at least 4 bottles of the newest batch and none of them were like that. this is my favorite of the series too, i hate to hear something like that but it happens...
  4. bleakies

    bleakies Disciple (379) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    I sympathize, OP, as I had the same experience within the past month or so. I got through about five sips before pouring it out. I asked about it here and stressed that I wasn't sure how it was supposed to taste compared to "regular" berliners, and the responses mostly noted that Somer Weiss is an extremely sour brew. But for me the sourness was less obvious than the vinegar/bile notes that kept me from drinking it.

    I want to assume it was an off bottle or off batch, because everything else I've sampled from Night Shift has ranged from real good to real great.
  5. billylectro

    billylectro Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2013 Vermont

    Yup, had one from Julio s on friday and it was the most intense flavor, in a bad way, that my mouth has ever felt. No way it was supposed to taste like that. Sent them a email after drinking it but have not heard back yet. Really liked the bee tea i got though and look forward to a good one.
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  6. Trevdawg

    Trevdawg Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2012 New Hampshire

    They all suck.

  7. runpmc007

    runpmc007 Initiate (55) Jul 6, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I've 'soured' on Night Shift.
  8. makdeco

    makdeco Initiate (135) Jan 31, 2007 Illinois
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    just drain poured one tonight as well exactly how the OP described vinegar bomb made mother funker drinkable... Bought mine last weekend at Julio's
  9. franklinn

    franklinn Initiate (0) May 29, 2012 Vermont

    is this a new batch?

    I don't know what batch I had but it was nothing like what is being described.
  10. AdamsDTD

    AdamsDTD Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Have a friend that had the same experience. Just a gigantic sour vinegar bomb and he dumped it. Looking forward to the Mainer, so hoping it comes out a little better.
  11. billylectro

    billylectro Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2013 Vermont

    yeah, batch 15
  12. franklinn

    franklinn Initiate (0) May 29, 2012 Vermont

    I caught the number, but I'm not sure exactly what it means. When was this batch released?
  13. jomobono

    jomobono Disciple (350) Mar 12, 2012 Massachusetts
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    They served the vinegar batch at NotF, maybe a good idea is to not release a bad batch, call me crazy.
  14. TheMonkfish

    TheMonkfish Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Chad

    This is about the point where the thread gets shut down and it is advised to contact the brewery.
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  15. bramsdell

    bramsdell Aspirant (278) May 27, 2011 North Carolina

    NO! No. Bad pun. Go away.
  16. billylectro

    billylectro Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2013 Vermont

    It was the end of August if I remember right.
  17. Davl22

    Davl22 Disciple (369) Sep 27, 2011 New Hampshire
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    Had the same experience with my bottle. I love sours but this was very concentrated and unbalanced. I actually blended most of my bottle with a pale ale so I wouldn't have to dump it.
  18. masterob8

    masterob8 Initiate (187) Oct 6, 2009 Massachusetts

    Hey All - Sorry to hear so many of you had a bad experience with Somer Weisse. We take this very seriously. Being a small brewery we do our best to not let any bad product out the door and we are not afraid of dumping beer or recalling beer from store shelves (we have done it in the past). Every bottle and every customer is critical to us. We never bottle beer that doesn't taste to our standards. After reading this thread this morning we tasted 5 different batches of Somer Weisse. It seems that some of the batches have become infected (way too sour and vinegary) and aren't to our standards. The bad batches are batch #15 bottled on 8/28 and #16 bottled on September 4/5th (batch 16 bottled 8/28 is fine). Batches 14, 17, and 18 all taste great and are how we designed/intend the beer to taste.

    We are constantly working on our recipe, processes and controls to put out the highest quality of beer possible. We continue to invest in equipment & people to improve our beers. Nonetheless, we wish we caught this problem ourselves and sooner. Honestly, thanks to everyone on this thread for bringing the problem to our attention.

    Today we begin the fun part of dumping Somer Weisse that is in kegs and bottles and working with our retail partners to remove the subpar product. For those of you who have bought bad bottles, we would be happy to offer you a replacement bottle. Just swing by the brewery and we can offer a replacement. While you are here we are happy to have you try a sample of a good batch of Somer Weisse that is on tap at the brewery.

    Please continue to give us feedback and alert us of any bad beer of ours that you purchase. We will do our best to never have this happen again.

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  19. Janeinma

    Janeinma Devotee (420) May 24, 2009 Massachusetts
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    are the earlier batches ok? We have 2 * batch 12 bottled on 7/8/13 and have been holding them to drink later
    BTW this is the proper and classy way to handle this and I applaud you for coming here and handling the issue.
  20. WkndatBernardus

    WkndatBernardus Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Everweiss is the shizz. Gonna grab a bottle of the "bad' Somerweiss to mix with some olive oil and pour it on my salad.
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  21. omniscientcause

    omniscientcause Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2010 District of Columbia

    Yea that batch is fine, I drank my 3 bottles and had no complaints.
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  22. masterob8

    masterob8 Initiate (187) Oct 6, 2009 Massachusetts

    I just looked into our back stock and couldn't find any batch 12 bottles. I did sample a batch 11 and batch 9 bottle and both tasted great. My prediction is batch 12 is fine based on not hearing any negative feedback and omniscientcause comment above.
  23. TheBeerologist

    TheBeerologist Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2011 Rhode Island

    Add me to the list. Bought a couple bottles at Julios (batch 15) on 9/28 and shipped one to a trading partner in CA who also described it as vinegar, vinegar more vinegar and ginger.

    As my first taste of Nightshift, it was a disappointment, now I guess it will be worth the trip to the brewery to try a proper tasting somerwiess and replace the bottles I bought.

    Thanks for the response here and the customer service nightshift!
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  24. makdeco

    makdeco Initiate (135) Jan 31, 2007 Illinois
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    thanks for the customer service, unfortunately bought mine at Julios while in town from Chicago...
  25. Janeinma

    Janeinma Devotee (420) May 24, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I hope you are at least enjoying the good bottles you are opening. I really don't have any worries about mine and will continue to cellar them (at least until we have drunk some of our more time sensitive beers hanging around).
  26. pisano

    pisano Zealot (524) Sep 18, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I agree with the OP. Did not love the bottle I had (don't recall which batch it was), but now it makes sense. Most other people I spoke with loved it so I was surprised when I didn't as I do love the style. Hope to try a non-infected batch next year.
  27. kscaldef

    kscaldef Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2010 Oregon
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    Is there anything you can do for out-of-towners who bought a bottle of the bad batch while visiting?
  28. emannths

    emannths Initiate (193) Sep 21, 2007 Massachusetts

    Yeah, it sounds like they'd be willing to swap it out for another bottle next time you're in town.

    Seriously, it's a $12 bottle of beer. Any non-local compensation is going to be neutered by shipping fees and logistics.
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