No rinse sanitizer poll

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by Joeyuwp, Mar 22, 2012.

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Do you rinse "no rinse" sanitizer?

Poll closed Mar 29, 2012.
  1. Yes

    25.1%
  2. No

    68.1%
  3. Sometimes

    6.8%
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  1. dgs

    dgs Initiate (0) Jul 18, 2005 Pennsylvania

    I don't know if it would present a problem, but I would probably be more concerned with using boiling water on my buckets. Are they OK at those temps?
     
  2. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    I can relate. Like I said, I used to do that. And that iodophor smell still bugs me. These days, I use iodophor mainly for things like carboys and kegs, where I know I'm going to be able to give them plenty of time to dry and air out while they're sitting upside down. But I've never liked the idea of letting things like tubing and autosiphons sit around and dry out. For those I use starsan. Probably overkill, but like you say... I feel better doing it.
     
  3. thetomG

    thetomG Savant (1,051) Feb 17, 2010 Illinois


    same here - I also mis-read the question.

    I use no-rinse saitizer, but I DO NOT rinse it off afterwards. Defeats the purpose...
     
  4. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    You let the boiled water cool before using it to rinse. I used to take 2.5 gallon cooking pot, boil some water at the start of the brew day, then let it cool. Later on, I'd use the water to rinse the carboy, autosiphon etc. But like I said, you don't really need to do that. People have done taste tests where they intentionally dosed a pint with a 1/2 teaspoon of iodophor solution, which is way more than you'd ever get as residue, and then compared that to a non-dosed beer, and found that even experienced tasters couldn't pick out the iodophor. But if you must rinse, that's one way to do it.
     
  5. slayerhellfire

    slayerhellfire Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2009 New York

    I miss read it too lol:grinning:
     
  6. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    It serves no useful purpose (indeed, it may do harm), it removes a yeast nutrient, and, on top of all that, it's extra work. Granted, these are all in inconsequential quantities, but it just seems to make sense to not rinse a 'no-rinse' sanitizer.
     
  7. MrGreengenes2

    MrGreengenes2 Initiate (0) Aug 9, 2008 Indiana

    I don't think a few drops worth of low pH solution will effect 5 gallons of beer, or even 12 oz in a bottle for that matter. The buffering reaction with water probably allows the yeast to metabolize and use the phosphorus in the acid.
     
  8. humalupa

    humalupa Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2010 Michigan

    Yes, and I always lick every glass and dish as I take it out of the dishwasher.
     
  9. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah

    One ounce of SS in 5 gallons = 1/128.

    If you get one ounce of diluted SS in 5 gallons of beer, then you have 1/(128*128).

    That is 0.00006 of the original strength in the beer. Don't lose any sleep over that. Yeast require some phosphate for health, so you supplied a trace amount.

    Edit, Time for bed I did that wrong. If you do a 5 gallon batch, the amount is much less than that in the finished beer - why worry?
     
  10. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    I have been using boiling water in my buckets since 2007 when I started. I am still using the original bucket I first started with. I have never had an infection. (Knock on wood!)
     
  11. youradhere

    youradhere Initiate (0) Feb 29, 2008 Washington

    Whoops, misread the question and thought it asked if I simply use no-rinse. Iodophor FTW! So long as my concentration of it isn't too strong I get no off flavors.
     
  12. dgs

    dgs Initiate (0) Jul 18, 2005 Pennsylvania

    I have no experience in this and wasn't thinking about infection, but about those who question whether the typical bucket can be used at boiling temps from plastic/chemicals in your brew angle. I don't mean to add fear where it shouldn't be, but if I would be concerned, it would be about that over no-rinse sanitizers. cheers
     
  13. EdH

    EdH Crusader (449) Jul 27, 2005 Utah

    Yeah, I don't get the logic. Using more time/effort and water to make the sanitizer less effective? Umm... Why?
     
  14. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    It's kind of like rehydrating dry yeast!
    [Mike covers his head in anticipation of a hailstorm of irrational arguments on both sides of this issue] :sunglasses:
     
  15. USCMcG

    USCMcG Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2009 Arizona

    I definitely fear the foam. Just the look of it freaks me out. It took me a long time to just get over it, but it is hard everytime.
     
  16. EdH

    EdH Crusader (449) Jul 27, 2005 Utah

    I don't fear the foam; but I do fear the slogan "don't fear the foam!".
     
  17. BruChef

    BruChef Maven (1,277) Nov 8, 2009 New York
    Society

    How many people let their equipment dry completely after sanitizing when the sanitizer you are using (i.e. ioduphor) specifically says to allow to air dry?
     
  18. Stairsvictim

    Stairsvictim Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2005 New Jersey

    I like to use starsan, and i never rinse. Tapwater is yucky, dont trust it.
    I try to let it drain out as much as possible, but I dont mind a little foam.
     
  19. jtmartino

    jtmartino Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California

    There's no need to rinse after using the proper dilution of sanitizer. Anyone who does otherwise is crazy.

    With the right dilution, you can't taste iodophor, or star san, or bleach in the beer. But you can waste a lot of energy and water boiling a rinsing solution.

    Do yourself a favor an go read a book on homebrewing. Palmer's is a good one to start.
     
  20. Swim424

    Swim424 Pundit (881) Apr 29, 2011 Florida

    I usually do. Not always, just with my carboy. I guess i'd rather have a tiny amount of hard water than iodine, which honestly doesn't make a difference. Just feels where deliberately leaving chemicals in my beer, even though tap water is full of chemicals as well.
    But I also sometimes over do it on the measurements because I dont really measure them just eye ball it. So I put extra in alot of the times. And in that case it might not be so good.
     
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