Notch Brewing (2020)

Discussion in 'New England' started by AlcahueteJ, Jan 7, 2020.

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  1. soheadyithurts

    soheadyithurts Zealot (551) Jan 4, 2013 Massachusetts

    I'm a fan of Gentile especially their Blonde. Low abv, bitter, noble hops.

    People were talking about Backbeat as well which is two blocks from Gentile.



     
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  2. cmoney13

    cmoney13 Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2017 Massachusetts

    Should've gone with a quart can of Polotmavy.
     
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  3. seanunreal

    seanunreal Zealot (513) Jul 23, 2009 Massachusetts

    Doing a pickup tomorrow and bummed I didn’t act earlier to get Löggerhead, as I bought my wife a beer caramelizer as a birthday gift.
     
  4. AirBob

    AirBob Pooh-Bah (1,742) Jul 15, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Vinnin in Swampscott may still have it. Not too far out of the way though I don't know if they do curbside
     
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  5. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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  6. AirBob

    AirBob Pooh-Bah (1,742) Jul 15, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Vinnin seems to get everything, including the limited release stuff.

    They also have a relatively consistent stock of Schilling and JA Keller series.
     
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  7. LakesideBrewing

    LakesideBrewing Zealot (604) Dec 1, 2013 Massachusetts
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    I really enjoyed the Voll IPA 4 pack I picked up a couple of weeks ago. I have been more and more hesitant on purchasing any NEIPAs lately because a lot of them are so poorly brewed. But, this being Notch, I figured it at the very least would be a well made beer, and it was. I was starting to think I was losing my taste for NEIPAs, but I think it’s more that I don’t like shitty beers.
     
  8. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Full disclosure on my part, it’s been over a year that I had the 3 different ipas I had from Voll. At the time I didn’t love them, from draft and can, but maybe they’ve improved.

    Agree on the NEIPA. When I do buy them and or get to try them they are so hit or miss for me. Makes me very hesitant to buy them especially from breweries that I’m not familiar with.
     
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  9. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    I don't think the Voll Project ipas hold a candle to the better examples of style in MA.

    It is strange because I have heard it is relatively easy to brew a good hazy ipa but difficult to brew all of the styles that Notch knocks out of the park.
     
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  10. Stormfield

    Stormfield Savant (1,065) Feb 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    I like the Voll Project IPAs. The couple of Voll IPAs I drank were balanced and didn’t have the overly assertive hop burn, nor vegetable matter flavor so common for the style. I’d buy Voll IPAs quite a bit if I lived near Salem.

    I’d also add that it is relatively easy to make a lousy, average, or passable NEIPA. Making a really good or excellent one isn’t easy.
     
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  11. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    I know nothing about brewing. The easy NEIPA is just something I hear thrown around from time to time especially when someone is trying to shoot down the style.
     
  12. cmoney13

    cmoney13 Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2017 Massachusetts

    I've only had a couple of sips of a notch voll IPA. When I visited last summer my friend ordered a DIPA, I assume Hang the DJ. I was there purely for the lagers, but I had a couple of sips. Thought it was excellent, perfect expression of mosaic for me, but hard to judge on just two sips.

    I do see German hops in a lot of their ipas, and that is sometimes concerning to me. Medusa has a couple like that, and whichever one gives off the strawberry flavor I can't stand.

    I might make a run to Notch this weekend. Anyone try the U yet?
     
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  13. seanunreal

    seanunreal Zealot (513) Jul 23, 2009 Massachusetts

    U is great - somewhat tea-like body and a great biscuit/malt finish
     
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  14. DucRacer900

    DucRacer900 Zealot (624) Aug 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    I personally like the Voll IPAs I've tried. I will say that they are not exactly typical NEIPAs and probably reflect @ChrisLohring 's slight antipathy towards the trendy haze beers.
     
  15. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Yup, had my first can last night. Very drinkable, went down in short order on a nice summer evening outside.

    Not nearly as good as Desitka (different styles I know) but good.

    There was a bit of astringency but I feel like I get that from Mahr’s U as well, so maybe it’s my palate. Could be that “tea-like” character that was described above.

    I love most of their lagers, but personally I feel like their German styles are a “Notch” below their Czech styles overall.

    Still though, the malt character in their lagers is awesome regardless of style.

    I feel as if this is a hold over from the days of super bitter West Coast IPAs. For example the first double IPA was brewed by Vinnie at Russian River (Blind Pig then). He did it just because he didn’t trust his new equipment and figured all the hops would cover up any flaws. And people ended up liking it. It’s why my first home brew was an IPA, figured it was harder to fuck up.

    I think New England IPAs are a different beast altogether though. Where yeast and certain hop combinations can make a huge difference. You can’t just throw an assload of C-hops in there and call it a day.

    See below for the Russian River story: really interesting. I did a speech once locally about the history of IPA. That was a fun project.

    If a guy named Electric Dave hadn’t sold Cilurzo plastic fermenters, he might not have brewed the country’s first Double IPA. He was launching Blind Pig Brewing Company, and as he puts it: “We weren’t sure how the equipment would react [to the plastic], so we decided that we’d take our base IPA recipe, double the hops and bump the malt up a little bit. The hops would sort of cover up any flaws, and it would also give us some idea of how the whole brewhouse would run. It was 10 times more bitter than most Double IPAs now and lower in alcohol. There was a blistering bitterness on the palate; it was amazing how many people actually liked it back then.”
     
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  16. Stormfield

    Stormfield Savant (1,065) Feb 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    I’m ready to be attacked for saying this, but I believe some (a lot?) of casual NEIPA drinkers drink with their noses. Huge dry-hop charges of Citra, Mosiac, Galaxy and other sexy hops can smell intoxicating when you take a whiff of a NEIPA. For me, that is sometimes where the quality ends, even before the first sip. As a one time home brewer specializing in lousy beer, I learned that dry hoping with a dose of Cita in a pale ale or IPA in the secondary fermentor was an easy way to make the beer smell great, no matter how good or bad the beer actually tasted.
     
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  17. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    Doesn't everyone drink with their nose? Sure taste and smell are different senses but they are so entwined that I don't think it is appropriate to separate them. That goes for tasting anything, not just beer. Think about when you eat something when you have a cold. It just isn't quite right. Having said that, can a beer taste a lot different than it smells? Sure but I think most of the time the two compliment each other and may actually be indistinguishable at times.
     
  18. Stormfield

    Stormfield Savant (1,065) Feb 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    Of course our olfactory sense plays a huge role in how we perceive all food and beverage—I didn’t think that needed to be said. But yes, a beer can smell good and taste like a hot mess at the same time.
     
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  19. Sheppard

    Sheppard Grand Pooh-Bah (3,516) Mar 16, 2013 Massachusetts
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    I can confirm this.
     
  20. bleakies

    bleakies Maven (1,355) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    Aroma is key to perception of flavor but people who drink with their noses are typically referred to as drowning victims.

    If I must drown, let me drown in Notch.
     
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