Oak aging methods

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  1. IPAdams

    IPAdams Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2013 Illinois

    Planning to do my first Oak aged beer next week and was wondering what different methods you guys use. I am going to be brewing an IPA and plan on soaking 2 oz of American oak chips in bourbon for a few days then tossing them in the secondary for about a week as I want more of a background flavor of oak/bourbon. Do you guys do anything different? I have seen some posts of people straining the chips out and throwing in the oak aged bourbon, any ideas?
     
  2. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    Smaller amount of chips, longer period of time.
     
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  3. MickJ0nes

    MickJ0nes Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2012 Pennsylvania

  4. IPAdams

    IPAdams Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2013 Illinois

    I was looking at spirals as well. Why the big difference in conditioning time? Chips are recommended for 2-4 weeks, these are 6-8 months.
     
  5. MickJ0nes

    MickJ0nes Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Makes sense that the chips would impart the oak faster working better for Ipa's. I only brew stouts and porters so I tend to let them go for 4-6 months. Try adding an eye dropper or two of bourbon to each bottle before filling and capping.
     
  6. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    This will be an eyePA? :grinning:
     
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  7. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Mi process...su process.

    The bourbon's flavor character fades over a few month's time if you pitch both chips and the bourbon soak (IOW...boozy when young - not that there's anything wrong with that). Probably a tad over-the-top for an IPA but still tasty.
     
  8. IPAdams

    IPAdams Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2013 Illinois

    Yeah I will probably just throw in the chips. How long do you soak them? I was thinking 5 days soak and then 5-7 days in the secondary.
     
  9. MickJ0nes

    MickJ0nes Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2012 Pennsylvania

    It's your first so live and learn. Make adjustments based upon what your looking for. If your this far already there will be plenty more batches in the future.
     
  10. kmatlack

    kmatlack Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2010 California

    I can't speak for chips as I use cubes but I have always boiled the cubes for a little bit, then soak them for a few days in whatever you are doing: bourbon, rum, wine, ect.

    I think that gets rid of some of the harsh tannins and sharp flavors, but that's just me.

    Have to do what works for you.
     
  11. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    I have read about every technique one can think of and they all seem to have similar results. The one time I oaked I used cubes. I think the main factor to look into is amount and contact time. I got pretty decent oak flavor in about a week but the oak faded fairly quick overall.

    For whatever that's worth.
     
  12. Jesse14

    Jesse14 Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    I have a RIS sitting on oak cubes that is just now ready to take off the oak after 3 months. I pre-soaked them in vodka for 10 days, drained, then soaked in Bookers for 10 days. Then dumped the whole thing in bourbon and all. Really liking the early results. I've never used the chips but others have said that the cubes impart a "smoother" oak character.
     
  13. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I have soaked oak chips in bourbon for 6-8 weeks, and then strain the bourbon off the chips and add it into the bottling bucket with a scotch ale. I don't notice much oak flavor in the finished beer, but the bourbon infusion works okay to give a nice extra flavor.

    I loosely fill a pint glass with the chips and then add the bourbon to fill the voids around the chips and cover it with plastic wrap to reduce evaporation. The first couple of times that I did this I added the liquid into the full 5 gallons. However, the last time that I made this beer I bottled half of the scotch ale before adding the bourbon to the bottling bucket, so the result was a greater flavor from the bourbon, but I only got half as many bottles with the bourbon infusion.
     
  14. pkrath84

    pkrath84 Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2013 California

    In my experience, generally the faster the extraction rate, the faster the oak fades. Oak chips impart flavor quickly (a few weeks) due to a high amount of surface area and the flavor is generally 1 dimensional. The flavor from chips ags out quickly as well. Oak cubes impart flavor more slowly (1-3 months). Now, in a week, you'll have noticable flavor, but the oak will really shine with more time. More contact time takes advantage of the complex flavors due to varying degrees of toast on the cubes. Furthermore, the oak flavor takes longer to age out - keep this in mind because if you over oak by a large margin, youll probably have to blend.

    I oaked a coffee imperial stout with cocoa and after 2 months, I ended up with a prominent but balanced oak flavor. I used medium toast hungarian oak cubes.
     
  15. Smokebox_79

    Smokebox_79 Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Just out of curiosity, wouldnt leaving the oak in an IPA for 3 months not work so well? The flavor and aroma of the hops would surely fade by then. Unless you dry hop late I guess.
     
  16. pkrath84

    pkrath84 Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2013 California

    You wouldnt want to age an IPA. But obviously, it can be done. If you were to do it, I'd definitely dry hop before bottling.

    Maybe oak chips instead.
     
  17. Brewing_Rob

    Brewing_Rob Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2012 Florida

    If I were going to oak an IPA I would add the oak cubes at the start of primary. This would give you a head start on the process and give you close to a month of oak. I can't imagine you would want to go much longer on an IPA.
     
  18. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I age my British IPAs. I really want to do that, as they are very harsh when young. Dry hop after aging.
     
  19. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Soak'em about a week to ten days.

    The fact the chips have absorbed enough liquid during the initial soak time, where a top-off is needed, suggests they are fully sanitized and ready-to-go.
     
  20. pkrath84

    pkrath84 Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2013 California


    I'm going to get flamed, but there are some commercial IPAs that I prefer aged. I just wrote it that way because thats the consensus and more characteristic of the style, if you're into that kind of thing.
     
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