oaking an ris

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  1. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Ok, I have an RIS in the primary and am going to oak it with about 4oz of cubes, just boiled no booze. I have read a lot but it seems 1 to 4 weeks is the range. Does anybody have a sweet spot?? It will be soaking in the cellar where athe ambient temp is 57F. 6.5 gallon batch.
     
  2. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    I definitely feel that less is more, and I like to add the complexity of oak without it being obtrusive. I haven't used cubes in a couple of years (switched over to spirals), but 4oz of cubes seems like a lot. I don't think I ever used more than 1oz, and was happy with it. I did age for 6-8 weeks, though.

    For spirals, I like 1/2 spiral in 5gals. I don't really time it; by the time I bottle, it gave all it could have given a few weeks ago.
     
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  3. DavidHume

    DavidHume Maven (1,371) Mar 25, 2013 Virginia
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    Four ounces is way too much unless you are brewing a real monster of a beer. I brewed an oak-aged strong ale last winter (O.G. 1.090), and used two ounces of bourbon-soaked medium-toast American oak cubes, and the oak still dominates the flavor. I don't mind, since oak fades with age and I planned on aging the batch, but I'd recommend using no more than 1 ounce unless you want to wait 18-24 months to drink it.
     
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  4. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Are you breaking spirals in half?
     
  5. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Not a huge beer, probably 10abv. Using my own white oak that is dryed. And probably a 50/50 mix of medium and heavy toasting. No booze soaking this time. I want just the oak highlights in the beer. OG was 1.098.
     
  6. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Yup. Wear work gloves, you can get some nasty splinters.
     
  7. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    I would go with a smaller amount of oak for a longer time if needed. It is really easy to over do it with oak. You can always add more, but you can't take it out :slight_smile:
     
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  8. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Thank you, I'll use 1.5 oz for a week and taste, then wait longer if required. I usually age an RIS 2 or more months. Takes that long to bottle carb in my cellar but it starts to shine at 6 months.
     
  9. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    StaVin, the maker of high quality oak products suggests 2-2.5oz of cubes in 5-6 gallons for a minimum of 2 months. This amount and time frame may produce more flavor than you want. 1.5oz for a couple months should produce a good result.

    Shorter contact times such as a week or two tend to produce a rougher result and a less desirable flavor. It takes a while to extract some of the more desirable flavors such as vanilla and coconut.
     
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