Oats question

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  1. Jos3h2r

    Jos3h2r Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2015 Panama

    quick question? Noob question too lol.
    Can i use the flaked oats from the supermarket in a brew or do i have to buy oats from a brewing site?

    Do you recommend any?
     
  2. DrewBeechum

    DrewBeechum Pooh-Bah (1,954) Mar 15, 2003 California
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    Flaked oats from the supermarket are just fine. Ideally, you'll mash them with a little grain to avoid starch issues.
     
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  3. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    I used quick oats in my imperial stout a few weeks ago... I used normal rolled oats in a milk stout before that with no issue. I added them in my grain mixture and mashed with my grains.

    I had a few stuck mashes though with my imperial stout which was a bit of a pain, but I should have just added some rice hulls when it occurred. Either way, live and learn! That beer came out stunning regardless. Along with my high mash temp (155-156) and the addition of cara-pils and a pound of oats, that stout has an incredible mouth feel... Mmmmm.
     
  4. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    Are you doing an extract beer where you are going to steep the oats or are you mashing? Whole oats, or old fashioned oats, need to be mashed. If you are steeping, use instant oats.
     
  5. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    I just want to point out that even instant oats should be mashed. I guess it's true that if you are going to steep your oats, instant oats are probably the best to use, but you will still end up with a bunch of unconverted starch in your beer. (Actually, the best approach if you want to steep oats is probably Golden Naked Oats, which don't need to be mashed, but I am not sure how easily available those are.)
     
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  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Interesting idea. For OP's info: GNOs are not the same as unmalted oats. GNOs are malted, and specifically are a crystal malt. They will add some sweetness, which unmalted oats won't. I also suspect the mouth feel proteins from GNO would be a bit different (and probably less) than from unmalted oats. Still, from a best practice standpoint, I wouldn't steep unmalted oats. I would steep GNO, if it fit the recipe/goals.
     
  7. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    and then there are malted oats...but if using extract only, as mindbender says...GNOs are your best bet.

    btw: oatmeal (flaked oats) are a lot cheaper at the store usually than at a homebrew supply
     
  8. Jos3h2r

    Jos3h2r Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2015 Panama

    Its an all grain oat stout. I was thinking of put the oats in the mix with all the grains. Do you guys think thats a good idea? And what kind of oats do you think i should use if i do it like this? You mentioned so many different oats and in confused now lol.

    Tx for the replies
     
  9. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Yes, put them in with the grains an mash as usual.

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    This kind works fine.
     
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  10. Jos3h2r

    Jos3h2r Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2015 Panama

    Tx a lot. Ill go for the quaker oats.
     
  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    • I have used oats described as instant, quick, flaked, and rolled directly in the mash.
    • I have used steel cut in the mash following pre-cooking, not quite like a cereal mash, but a cereal mash would do fine.
    • I have also used Oat Malt, just to be different. I'm not 100% sure how this affects sensory profiles (i.e., taste and mouthfeel) but it probably helps if you are prone to stuck mashes because oat malt has husk material that can become part of the grain "bed."
    • And Golden Naked Oats are something akin to an oat version of crystal malt that I find pretty tasty in a pale beer with minimal amounts of other specialty malts. If you are making an oatmeal stout, it probably does add some of the mouthfeel elements as Vikeman suggests, but I would guess the flavors can get lost among the roasted malts. I probably wouldn't use any other crystal malts in this beer if I hoped to taste the GNOs. If I were steeping, I would do this. However, I think that it is almost as easy to do a minimash with a pound of 2-row and a pound of oats as it is to steep grains.
     
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