Off Color on our first IPA?

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  1. janky

    janky Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2013 Washington

    Ah, gotcha. Simtra = Simcoe + Citra hops.
    It's this recipe:
    http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f37/simtra-ipa-sly-pa-recipe-197551/

    grains: Cara-pils, Crystal 50L, wheat malt, and the Breiss light LME.
     
  2. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    So the C50 explains at least some of you dark color.

    Did you use wheat extract? Or wheat? If you steeped wheat, you got starch in your beer which might explain the "wheaty" taste. Or it could be that you are not a fan of the yeast.

    It sounds like you made a drinkable beer. I would try brewing again with light DME, drop the carapils and wheat and try US05 (dry yeast).
     
  3. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    I just brewed a hoppy APA with white labs 13 (london ale) yeast which seems to have brought out a lot of juicy fruitiness from the hops. May be worth a look if you have a preference for English yeast. Watch for higher than advertised attenuation though
     
  4. janky

    janky Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2013 Washington

    Definitely drinkable, I'm just holding myself to a higher standard for next time :grinning:
    The wheat was a grain that was steeped, not an extract. It's definitely noticeable in the taste... some of the people who tried it mentioned that as well. I personally don't like wheat lol, but I wasn't sure how prominent it'd be in the final product.

    If I drop the carapils and wheat, I'm literally just brewing with the crystal 50 and DME, right? Is that going to be enough?
    What is the reasoning behind dropping the carapils? (genuinely curious, hope that doesn't sound rude in text)
     
  5. janky

    janky Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2013 Washington

    I have no clue what yeasts I prefer haha ... this was literally our first beer.
    We brewed a coffee stout as well, which may have been a bit over our heads because it was a pretty big beer! Won't know how that turned out for a few months, but so far the sample we tasted definitely tastes like beer, and it smells delicious.

    I'm leaning towards doing the "simtra" again with some tweaks, and maybe doing a simple pale ale (like maybe a zd clone or something?) for some practice/learning experience.
     
  6. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    Just FYI, the LME will have some crystal malt in it already. It may be OK to go 100% of it in order to get a wort that is as fermentable as an IPA wort from the pros...

    Personally if you don't like the sweetness, I'd cut the C-50 and replace it with more LME.
     
  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Wheat malt isn't steepable, unless you steep it under specific conditions relating to temperature, water to grist ratio, and time that actually make it a Mash. Otherwise, the starches may not be fully converted to sugars/dextrins. If your homebrew store gave you this recipe, you may want to take whatever else they are telling you with a grain of salt.
     
  8. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Drop the carapils because there are already caramel malts in most DME/LME you don't need it here. Some all-grain brewers use carapils, some don't. I can almost guarantee you will make a better beer than this one if you drop the carapils and the wheat and use US05. The hop schedule looks good but most people would use something "less special" at 60 minutes instead of Simcoe. Try brewing this again with some minor changes, that will give you a real good comparison of what happens when you tweak a recipe.
     
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