Old IPAs - What to do about this problem?

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Kudos for explicitly stating "process" in your post. Process is extremely important to achieve a given outcome.

    Cheers!
     
  2. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    Your experience at HF mirrors mine with Trillium in some ways. I've also popped Heady Topper on the day of delivery and it is never as good as it is a couple of weeks later.

    As for Be Hoppy, I attribute the draft issues to either lower turnover or poor draft lines. It's very good on tap at the brewery and it's very good at a restaurant where I often find it (which is owned by the people who own the brewery). But I've had it be mediocre at other places.
     
  3. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Report it to Stone: http://www.stonebrewing.com/freshbeer/
     
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  4. beernooph

    beernooph Zealot (647) Feb 23, 2008 Connecticut

    Drink them! I drank an Enjoy By 4-20 on May 25th I believe and even wrote a post about it. It was amazing! But a representative from Stone emailed me and said she was sorry and that the beer should not have been on the store self that long.
     
  5. Raime

    Raime Pooh-Bah (1,935) Jun 4, 2012 North Korea
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    I only drink IPA's within 5 minutes off the bottling line.

    The 6th minute causes too much declination in the flavor.
     
  6. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    Freshness is important but it's a bit overblown on this site, particularly if the beer has been in cold storage.

    Still I've always wanted to try the new Ballantine IPA... but the only bottles I ever find lying around in my area are EIGHT months old... :confused:

    Hey I am not a freshness snob, but no I am not buying that beer as much as I really want to try it :slight_frown:
     
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  7. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Expanding on my initial point. Basically store owners and distributors just have to be more conservative on stocking less of the expensive priced beers so they don't become old or shelf turds. Low price point seems to move beer in greater volume from store shelves more than quality product.
     
  8. KingforaDay

    KingforaDay Pooh-Bah (2,445) Aug 5, 2010 New Jersey
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    Yes they are most likely overestimating demand. But I do think it's tied to the fact there are so many more breweries now and so many great IPA's being produced. And while the craft market share has gone from 5% to 11% in the last 5 years, the pie is being split so many more ways that beers like Sculpin aren't the best option anymore, fresh or not.
     
  9. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,815) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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    If you see a lot of old IPAs, you have to buy them to clear shelf space or they won't get in new ones.
     
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  10. Borbly

    Borbly Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2014 Canada ()

    As someone living far from any American IPA producing breweries, I've actually grown accustomed to the way older IPAs taste, in particular past the 3-month range (we seldom see anything fresher). I do understand that fresher ones do have a certain zing that isn't found in other beers, but I think that the complexity of an aged IPA can be something to admire as well.
     
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  11. brother_rebus

    brother_rebus Pooh-Bah (2,512) Jul 28, 2014 Maine
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    I would love to see some outrageous law implemented that only allows a x-mile distribution for all beers, across the US.
    That way everything would mostlikely be fresh. And people would have to use energy to go traveling for their fresh (or not so) beer instead of it taking the transit time to come to them.
     
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  12. kell50

    kell50 Pooh-Bah (2,334) Jul 25, 2007 North Carolina
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    Drink them super fast so that no one else notices the printed-on date.
     
  13. PatrickCT

    PatrickCT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,776) Feb 18, 2015 Connecticut

    One doesn't get sick from drinking an old IPA.
     
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  14. PatrickCT

    PatrickCT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,776) Feb 18, 2015 Connecticut

    I know a place that has a few Sixpoint Bengali Tigers on the create your own 6pk shelf. In the old fat cans.
     
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  16. joeyjoey104

    joeyjoey104 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2014 California

    This whole above scenario is ridiculous and filled with "snarky" bs, obviously I don't think 35 days is the general rule when an IPA should be pulled from shelves, but definitely past 40-50 days the hops fade and you no longer are drinking the same beer as when it was released. The more and more I see old IPAs on shelves, the more it angers me that breweries over produce and retailers/distributors buy too much. As others have said, this is a big issue in the craft beer community, especially as people start entering and trying IPAs. This can really turn people off to the craft movement.

    I've had a ton of Sculpin in my days of drinking craft, been to their brewery and tasting room, I have purchased it before fresh a few times - I'm not saying I know every IPA's peak freshness date, but with Sculpin, I was just noting how I can no longer find it fresh and when I received a bottle that I later checked was 65 days old, it didn't taste like the Sculpin I know. That is quite frustrating and I think their needs to be more awareness put on retailers and distributors to not stock IPAs after two months on the shelves... this will force them to not over estimate the demand and supply maybe more here or lagers or saisons or stouts that don't fade in a few months.
     
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  17. joeyjoey104

    joeyjoey104 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2014 California

    Agreed, the whole options scenario was unnecessary.
     
  18. joeyjoey104

    joeyjoey104 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2014 California

    I noticed the same thing with Kern River's Double Citra, amazing at the source on tap... in bottles it didnt have that juiciness.
     
  19. Flashy

    Flashy Pooh-Bah (1,767) Oct 22, 2003 Vermont
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    It tastes like grapefruit juice. I liked the Habanero Sculpin though.
     
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  20. SchmittHappens

    SchmittHappens Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2013 New Jersey

    A lot of the times its not the breweries fault though, gotta watch out for the distributors. At least I know this is true with my area and Firestone (I work in a store in North Jersey). They will buy too much and it will sit in the warehouse, or it will come in and they forget to tell the reps (which happens too often), the truck just takes TOO long getting across the country (a shipment of FW was supposed to have been "on the truck on its way" for like 2 weeks...). The beer will come in and its already got a month and a half on it.
    The freshest I've seen here in Jersey was around 2 weeks.
    As for Ballast point (which is distributed by a different distributor) I've seen cans of Sculpin that were 6 days old... How the hell did it get driven from Cali to here, processed by my distributor, then delivered to me in 6 days? I've also seen this with Stone.

    TL;DR A lot of times its the distributors that mess up and the beer sits in their warehouse or in transit for too long
     
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