One review per user, per beer update question

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  1. Tucquan

    Tucquan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,116) Oct 11, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    I see that my duplicate beer ratings were removed as indicated in the announcement. I'm curious, what algorithm was used to determine the new rating for a beer when there were duplicates? Was it an average of all the reviews for that beer? Also, what algorithm was used to determine which words/review to keep? As an example, I see the words/review for my formerly top-rated beer, but if I recall correctly, I had it rated .17 points higher. It looks like it may have inherited an average or perhaps the numeric rating of one of my other reviews of this same beer. Of interest, I had given the cask version the highest rating (numero uno of all of my 860+ former ratings). Sorting my list now by rating shows a different top beer that was just a bit lower than my real favorite. Thanks.
     
    #1 Tucquan, Jan 5, 2013
  2. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    If a user reviewed a beer more than once, the update script kept the most recent review/rating. There was no stored aggregate rating for multiple reviews by a single user.

    That said, the script to update all beer ratings is still running. You'll no doubt see some scores update once complete, but nothing too crazy given the small number of multiple reviews that were removed.
     
    #2 Todd, Jan 6, 2013
  3. Tucquan

    Tucquan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,116) Oct 11, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Makes sense. Thanks.
     
    #3 Tucquan, Jan 6, 2013
  4. Stinkypuss

    Stinkypuss Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2008 Pennsylvania

    I just thought I was going crazy when i saw i had less reviews than before. Going to hit 1800 reviews twice! Cheers!
     
    #4 Stinkypuss, Jan 6, 2013
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  5. charlzm

    charlzm Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2007 California

    I was at 997 reviews, then suddenly it went down to 947. I wonder which reviews were thrown away? Guess I've learned my lesson; don't count on Beer Advocate as an archive of beer reviews. I understand we're providing free content to a for-profit website, but still, it surprised me. I didn't learn about this until I came here just now...
     
    #5 charlzm, Jan 9, 2013
  6. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    You mean just like I can't count on people to read my Announcement posts? :wink:

    Friend, we have all of your reviews backed-up at least once. We also plan on emailing everyone their multiples reviews. Nothing is lost.
     
    #6 Todd, Jan 9, 2013
  7. charlzm

    charlzm Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2007 California

    Thanks, Todd. Sorry, I tend to log in, review a beer, then log out. After the redesign, I just never went back to using the forums. Until now, anyway.
     
    #7 charlzm, Jan 9, 2013
  8. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    No worries. We'll make an announcement before emailing everyone impacted by the update.
     
    #8 Todd, Jan 9, 2013
  9. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    :-) Did you go to sensitivity school over the holidays or something? Maybe I'm hallucinating, but it sure seems like there is a kinder and gentler Todd on the forums (so far) these days. What happened to the old crusty Todd who would respond (generally): "Hey, this is the way we do things around here. It's our site, not yours... if you don't like the way we do things, you can go take a flying jump in the lake!"

    Slight exaggeration of course, but am I the only one who has noticed an increased effort to empathize with a poster's position, and provide more reasonable and often very courteous responses?
     
    #9 John_M, Jan 9, 2013
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  10. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    I'm flattered that you have the spare time to give me so much thought in your day.

    By the way, I'll be giving out free hugs today from noon to 2pm.
     
    #10 Todd, Jan 9, 2013
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  11. ehammond1

    ehammond1 Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2008

    Todd's running his first LIF!
     
    #11 ehammond1, Jan 9, 2013
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  12. PatriotsRule

    PatriotsRule Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2012 Massachusetts

    Where can i stock up on these hugs? Do they come in sixers?
     
    #12 PatriotsRule, Jan 9, 2013
  13. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Dammit! Just read this post. Now I'm going to have to hustle if I want to make it in time for my free hug!
     
    #13 John_M, Jan 9, 2013
  14. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    Are users list of hads backed up as well? I would hate to log all these beers here (the primary spot I do it) and then one day after a crash they'd be gone.
     
    #14 Hanzo, Jan 9, 2013
  15. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    Yes. We backup data on a regular basis and the servers have been extremely stable since Feb 2012. We plan on securing our data even more this year.
     
    #15 Todd, Jan 9, 2013
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  16. fmccormi

    fmccormi Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2010 California

    Is there anything to account for multiple reviews across different formats? The only beers I reviewed more than once were for the same beer in a different format, i.e. growler vs. bottle vs. can vs. tap, etc. There were a couple of times when I updated existing reviews based on new tasting notes, but I never logged a new review for the same beer in the same format. My duplicates were purely for reference to compare format variations.

    Thanks!
     
    #16 fmccormi, Jan 9, 2013
  17. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    #17 Todd, Jan 9, 2013
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