Other Half (2020)

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  1. fdonnelly

    fdonnelly Maven (1,303) Dec 14, 2016 New Jersey
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    Well, I shall see what is available to me Thur afternoon and grab a few things, thanks for the reviews!
     
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  2. Justonemore91

    Justonemore91 Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2018 New York
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    Their beers don't even look remotely the same so I don't use the word shell lightly. Most of their ipas have also been sugary sweet also. I was not aware they had a new brewer. Maybe it will be a while before they dial it back in
     
  3. NewmansOwn

    NewmansOwn Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2016 New York

    HDHC week continues with even more hop goodness on Wednesday and Thursday. Ordering opens at noon via Curbside Pickup on the days the beers are released, link in bio.

    Today, Wednesday, 7/1 at noon⁠:
    HDHC Triple Citra Daydream Imperial Oat Cream IPA (10.5%) The biggest and hoppiest gets even bigger and hoppier but with a very smooth profile with the help of our oat cream treatment. Citra, Citra Cryo and Citra Incognito turn this beer into a lychee and tropical fruit hop bomb. $24 per 4 pack.

    HDHC Small Mosaic Everything IPA (6.5%) Slightly more manageable but no less flavorful than its big sibling All Mosaic. Smaller but with all the Mosaic Cryo and Mosaic Incognito you could need. $20 per 4 pack.

    Tomorrow, Thursday, 7/2 at noon:
    HDHC Hop Showers IPA (7.4%) One of our first beers finally gets the HDHC treatment! Citra, Amarillo, Citra and Amarillo Cryo and Citra Incognito. $22 per 4 pack.

    HDHC More Citra Than All Citra Imperial IPA (10.5%) We wanted to explore unnecessarily large hop additions using Citra Incognito, Citra Cryo and regular Citra pellets. We are going for the biggest baddest aromatics we can and it represents around 15 lbs/bbl but with our combo of hop products it's as smooth as ever. $24 per 4 pack.

    HDHC The Daydreamiest Imperial Oat Cream IPA (10.5%) The Imperial mashup of our 3 favorite Daydream hops, Mosaic, Citra and Galaxy gets the HDHC treatment. $24 per 4 pack.
     
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  4. SpinSamzo

    SpinSamzo Maven (1,276) Mar 11, 2017 New York
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  5. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    My wife is going to kill me

    Also the cynic in me wonders if HDHC will become the new DDH
     
  6. crowlcrowlcrowl

    crowlcrowlcrowl Savant (1,020) Jun 13, 2014 New York
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  7. patmcd

    patmcd Pundit (844) Jul 5, 2008 New York

    15lbs/bbl on more citra is pretty crazy
     
  8. Msudukie

    Msudukie Pundit (920) Oct 26, 2013 New York
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    Curious what the right way is to rate beers on Untappd. Why does there need to be a right answer? OH seems to not have skipped a beat through whatever changes people perceived over the last few years.
     
  9. thedon10

    thedon10 Crusader (437) Nov 12, 2009 New York

    HDHC feels like a complete cash grab way of making an additional $2 on every 4pk. Hope they don’t start making most beers this way, but if everyone buys this stuff I’m sure they will.
     
  10. Xerlic

    Xerlic Maven (1,398) Aug 26, 2016 New York
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    You really have to take Untappd ratings with a grain of salt and not just go by ratings. The cap rating is only part of the story. You have to find the checkins from people that actually leave tasting notes. Most people don't.

    Some people will rate a beer highly just because it's from a hype brewery and that's what you're "supposed" to do. Hudson Valley put out some downright shitty beers in late 2019, and people were still checking them in at 4+.
     
  11. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    If something I liked legitimately became a shell of itself I wouldn't spend money on it.

    OH IPAs have definitely changed A LOT in the last 6+ years. And yeah certain ones look different. Imagine OG AGE beside the most recent iteration. But I don't think there has been a sudden change in the last couple of months. Sweetness has been a complaint for some people for some of their beers, for a long while now. Not only is my total palate recall shite, I'm also color blind - but I would be surprised if ACE 2020 looks wildly different than ACE 2019.

    And besides - beers often change/evolve. I imagine sometimes that's intentional and sometimes it's due to other reasons. Like the most recent HF Edward or HF Double Citra or HF Double Galaxies that I've had, all look/taste very different to the versions I first tried 8-9 years ago.

    TL;DR - if you have a bone to pick with OH's direction you should have had one for a while at this point

    Them's the breaks. Lots of good beer out there.
     
  12. algebeeric_topology

    algebeeric_topology Pooh-Bah (2,052) Dec 30, 2014 Florida
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    It's not a knock on OH at all that beers often need to be HDHC to have that "wow" factor. Our tastes have shifted so much since those early cans. There's also the difference in what we expect them to be now. Think about how much different expectations were for this batch of HDHC ACE than the first one. You can't separate your expectations from your impression of the beer.

    It's insane. Wasn't 8 lbs/bbl a pretty big number 4 years ago?

    To both comments, I feel like we're approaching a point where more is just.... more? That is, the flavor is more potent, but the beer isn't always better. Take Space Diamonds for example, the difference between our favorite and lease favorite batches isn't lbs/bbl of Galaxy. In fact, I bet more hopping in the weaker batches would've made them worse.

    Mikkeller's 1000 IBU was kind of a joke at the end of the IBU wars; what's going to be the equivalent for NEIPA? Are we already there?
     
  13. Justonemore91

    Justonemore91 Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2018 New York
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    I don't have an issue with oh. I've been drinking their beers for years. I just have an issue with batch inconsistencies when it comes to ipas. Nothing personal I just think we all deserve better for the money we are spending
     
  14. patmcd

    patmcd Pundit (844) Jul 5, 2008 New York

    Batch inconsistency could be related to the quality of the hop harvest of the year. Just like how some fruit may be sweeter than last year's summer fruit. Or how there are better vintages of wine compared to other years. E.g. 2015 Napa Cab is great, 2016 not so much.

    For the "inconsistency" you're detecting...how do you know it's due to or the quality of the hops or flaws in the process?
     
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  15. patmcd

    patmcd Pundit (844) Jul 5, 2008 New York

    0 IBU Hazy IPA? The opposite.

    OH had a crazy collab a few years ago...that something similar to that I think....
     
  16. Justonemore91

    Justonemore91 Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2018 New York
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    Not sure of either. Either way we're paying the same price for a shot in the dark. Craft recipes should get better over time imo
     
  17. SeanEDPBK

    SeanEDPBK Pundit (753) Jun 8, 2016 New York

    I think HDHC is mostly bunk and have noted here and on Untappd. I still buy it because its good, if not always better.

    I'll never forget Topical Depression, which I think was OH's first 0 IBU beer (maybe their last? Was also a collab). Awful stuff.

    Did anyone get both HDHC Green City and Dream City? With the Hop Showers releasing tomorrow I'll probably get the Green City but was curious if the hop profile on both of those came out the same (melon forward).

    For stocking up for my July retreat this has been a banging line up to load up on and really I don't mind the extra $10 in HDHC surcharges.
     
  18. fdonnelly

    fdonnelly Maven (1,303) Dec 14, 2016 New Jersey
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    Feels like the trains left the station already. We shifted from IPA to DDH IPA pretty quickly with OH, just think of a time when ACE, Space Diamonds, Broccoli, Mylar Forever Simcoe and such were normal IPAs and then DDH versions would pop up here and there and people went nuts. We haven't seen a non DDH version of those in years. Now its all DDH every time, HDHC is the new new and it seems after a while will become the norm. If people buy why not push it, it feel like this week is a test run for that shift.

    This, my friends I follow I trust their rating, much like when I ask for a review on here. But overall on Untappd its unfair to base a beer off what it is rated. I won't look at a rating on something someone has sent me or given me until after I drink it and have mine in my head. Most people rate the beer off their personal tastes and how they like it vs rating it for the style it is and how it should look/taste.
     
  19. algebeeric_topology

    algebeeric_topology Pooh-Bah (2,052) Dec 30, 2014 Florida
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    Haha you're right that was a ridiculous moment but I feel like we're approaching some equally outrageous hop saturation moment. Surely that's driving some of this crispy movement.
     
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  20. OGShotzy

    OGShotzy Maven (1,422) Oct 5, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Somewhere between DDH and HDHC wasn’t cryo that new shit?
     
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