Other Half Brewing November 2017

Discussion in 'Mid-Atlantic' started by algebeeric_topology, Nov 1, 2017.

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  1. msaitta

    msaitta Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2016 New Jersey

    Which stores/bars in NJ are reselling OH cans? I've heard a ton of talk about it on here but have never seen any tangible proof or even a name.
     
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  2. SeanEDPBK

    SeanEDPBK Pundit (753) Jun 8, 2016 New York

    Thoughts on Go With the Flow? Looking forward to trying on tap soon.
     
  3. jkane101

    jkane101 Savant (1,161) Sep 22, 2007 New Jersey

    OH threads are Beer Advocates version of the movie Groundhog Day...same shit over and over and over...
     
  4. icfpny

    icfpny Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2015 New York

    I visited my in-laws out in Suffolk County earlier this year on a Saturday. We went to three typical craft beer bars in two different towns and all three of them were selling that morning's Other Half release at $10+/can.

    (I haven't seen this in Jersey since I don't spend much time out there, but enough people have complained about it here that I believe them.)
     
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  5. tynian16

    tynian16 Pundit (770) Oct 23, 2015 New York

    I have spent a ton of time in Jersey and have never personally seen or heard of OH cans being sold anywhere.
     
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  6. algebeeric_topology

    algebeeric_topology Pooh-Bah (2,052) Dec 30, 2014 Florida
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    Your first point has come up before and this is actually already happening. The "one or two 4pk" crowd is often waiting in the wings for fills to come on at which point they go to the brewery and have some pours while they wait. Maybe I haven't spent as much time in the taproom midday on a Saturday, but I know they're bumping during the release and quite active later at night. It isn't so packed that it's shoulder to shoulder, but they don't seem to be hurting for business.

    If we accept that OH isn't going to just jack the price up until the sellouts sort themselves out, then I disagree that their model is inefficient. They're being highly efficient with space and labor by selling all their cans quickly and then focusing on draft pours in a busy taproom over the remainder of the day (while continuing to offer growler fills for the walk up crowd). They aren't the only brewery to avoid selling cans and pours simultaneously and to me, limiting the time you spend doing both makes sense. If they were in the situation of needing more traffic to the taproom because everybody bought cans and split, then your suggestion would make a ton of sense.

    Again, local is very poorly defined in these conversations. Do I count as local by riding the subway an hour (however small the distance might actually be)? I don't know that we belong in the morally just category by virtue of being NYCers with no cars to carry beer and tiny apartments that can't store too much of it. It's just bagging on "bridge and tunnel" types, which certainly isn't new to this thread, but I'd imagine we can do a bit better job only joking about it rather than blaming people. Hell, I'd probably drink more if I lived in Jersey and need to stock up. FWIW I think the most I've ever carried home on the subway is 3 cases.

    There are plenty of resellers/razzlers, etc in the NYC area as well as 3-4 NYC spots I can think of off the top of my head that frequently get cans.

    With that said, I agree with everybody that it would be nice if OH did have lower limits and a culture like Tree House where the beer is guaranteed to last the day but it doesn't seem to be their MO. Can we critique that without sounding entitled? I get that we've all supported OH over the years but it isn't like we propped them up while they made shitty beer nobody else would buy, and deserve rewards for our noble service. They sold great beer, we were lucky to get it while it was easier to get (without having many comparable options either), then word got out and it stopped being easy to get. They don't seem to want to make it easy to get /shrug, there are plenty of other local options to be had that are easier to get from Interboro (until that L goes down!), LIC Beer Project, Finback, Greenpoint, Threes, etc. Maybe they aren't always quite as consistently good, but that's why they're easier to get! Threes and Finback even make it easy by selling online (note the proper use of online) so you don't have to wait in line :slight_smile:

    We also occasionally receive helpful information from employees in this thread. Let's not be so intolerable that we stop getting that information.
     
  7. dhaakon

    dhaakon Pundit (851) May 30, 2005 New York

    good points but the problem is any time anyone brings up the point about limits... people jump on them for bringing up the local card as opposed to just being a fan who wants to enjoy their beer without competing with mules/resellers. i dont care where a customer came from (im from jersey and most people here arent from brooklyn) and ive had people from nyc cut me and then say tough luck to the fact that the allotment cut off would be at their place inline. the people from jersey or long island who just want to grab a reasonable amount of beer should have no problem with this. instead, its mulers/traders, who other half caters to that come on here saying “other half is a business you socialist hipster!” that seem to have a problem with long time fans who are now upset. its annoying.

    like just cut the limits and be done with it. as i said, its tired. until then have at it mules/resellers.
     
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  8. dhaakon

    dhaakon Pundit (851) May 30, 2005 New York

    and if you really want to wake up to whats going on... just go on the facebook groups.
     
  9. BoardwalkBock

    BoardwalkBock Pooh-Bah (2,041) Aug 18, 2012 New York
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    I have zero issue and agree with what you say. It takes me no less than 75 mins to get to OH and vice versa (took me 2h40m to get home on Wednesday.) and I never buy more than 16 cans. All the jerssey people who say they buy cases bc the drive have never commuted on the belt during rush hour.
     
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  10. yossle

    yossle Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2016 New York

    I have definitely seen beer stores in Nassau selling cans as well, usually $11 a can at 1pp.
     
  11. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    :beers:
     
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  12. algebeeric_topology

    algebeeric_topology Pooh-Bah (2,052) Dec 30, 2014 Florida
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    Nobody else brought bottles to share while we wait for this dumb parade. Now I look like a jackass pounding bombers alone in front of my family and all these strangers.

    The only thing that will redeem this is seeing everybody chugging on the Hazeboiz float.
     
  13. TheGent

    TheGent Grand Pooh-Bah (4,235) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    Never heard of it or seen it anywhere in NJ either.
     
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  14. bryantc3

    bryantc3 Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2017 New Jersey
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    The only time I have seen it in NJ is the empty cans that the Tap House in Hackettstown displays for some dumb ass reason. Like here are all these random beers that we don't sell, but you may recognize the label.
     
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  15. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    a) stuff gets resold in NYC not just outside of it. It’s not a NJ/LI problem

    b) I’m convinced that the reseller issue (insofar as the beers are being resold at stores/bars/online for huge mark ups) is overplayed. It happens, but personally I think that most “reselling” is probably a case of guys picking up full allotments and selling them to friends / beer geeks in their local area, at cost or for a small mark up that covers their gas and maybe a 4 pack. Which is no worse than trading to me. As with everything discussed on here it’s not a black and white issue.
     
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  16. NiceBeerCans

    NiceBeerCans Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2013 New York

    The moral outrage that is frequently expressed on this thread (by some) actually isn't really present with the majority of the people who are actually lining up for the releases. I asked some people and most say that they have no issues with OH since anybody can line up earlier and get the cans. If you choose to go later, you run the risk of missing out (or missing some of the cans). Some people will always want to go later and later, if the cans don't sell out quickly (and then will complain when they miss it). For the people who say it isn't fair or they cannot go earlier, that applies to many other limited commodities. There is always another release coming up and OH has even made mid-week releases. Basically, too much complaining online but not in line (or in queue as @rozzom might prefer). :wink:
     
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  17. bowery

    bowery Devotee (352) Jul 3, 2014 California
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    Wow this latest batch of DMD is tasting amazing, super aromatic and lots of flavor. I like DMDD but the astringency of oats and lactose kind of mutes the mosaic.
     
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  18. Vizualize

    Vizualize Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2014 New York

    Triple can release in Buffalo with a cocoa and pepper stout can. Further proof Other Half hates locals.
     
  19. algebeeric_topology

    algebeeric_topology Pooh-Bah (2,052) Dec 30, 2014 Florida
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    I hope their next planned releases are Jersey and LI.
     
  20. dhaakon

    dhaakon Pundit (851) May 30, 2005 New York

    Is that really surprising? I don't wait in the lines anymore so I don't have a chance to complain in them. They've weeded those types of beer drinkers out. A lot of people on this forum have come out and said they would go if it wasn't such a hassle and grab a few four packs later in the day. Everyone knows you can line up at 6am and get the full allotment but does that have to be the case?

    The one time they varied limits for street green I was in line at 7:30am and would have received the original allotment. It sucked but I wasn't too pissed off.

    And if the commodities are limited then make the limits reflect that! They don't need to inflate the limited aspect of the commodity but they choose to. It's no skin off there back to lower limits and then if it doesn't sell out to raise them but they love the hype. And apparently so do a lot of other people. This will be my last post on all of this til the new year. I'm sure plenty of people will be happy about that.
     
    #1040 dhaakon, Nov 23, 2017
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