Outdated, Stale Liquor Laws...

The lack of Happy Hour here is a real bummer, wish they would turn that one around. It's a real treat going to another state, pulling up to the bar and realizing drafts are cheaper for a little while.

The growler thing is a pain in the ass - my cabinets are getting VERY full with all the glassware from seemingly every brewery in New England haha.

 

I have Never in 30+ years been allowed to buy more than 192oz at once. I can walk in And buy 192 , leave and come back over and over but can't buy 400oz and then walk out with 192 at a time. I have bought over 192 when the clerk can't do the math.

I can buy 800 gallons though in kegs or cases and take it all at once.

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A bit different than bringing $300 across state lines for private consumption. I do bring back a lot of NB slow ride from De and always look around the parking lot for cops. If they follow you out just drive around De for a bit.

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Actually the major owner of a very successful regional brewery located in PA, Dick Yuengling, has publicly made the argument that his, and other smaller breweries, have benefitted from some of those laws which have effectively kept AB and MC from dominating the market.

There are some reasons to think he's right. For example a few years back, with a bit of help from other BAs, it was possible to find the AB sales stats (this was before the InBev purchase of AB). At that time one one state in the US consumed less Budweiser than PA. That's Alaska where shipping costs might just play a role.

Also, you live in Ohio, without the three tier system, how would smaller breweries from out of state whose beers you enjoy be able to afford to distribute their beers to a location where you could buy them??

 

IIRC there's more than one state where that could be a problem for someone moving there.

 

I think our state or maybe it's just Philly consumes the most coors light.

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Not seen any data on Coors Light sales in PA, but given the Philly beer scene I'd be surprised if they sell more than what we see with the more flavorful beers. I personally don't think I'd know where to find a bar serving Coors...

Even the bar in 30th Street station doesn't have it on tap or in any other container....

You enjoy as well!

 

Been looking for this stat since I posted this. I was told this a few years ago. Could have been false but came from a trusted source.

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Arkansas - no alcohol sales on sunday and over half the state is still dry. the university I went to is in a dry county so the next county over makes bank off the students

 

I always find the arguments against allowing higher abv beers to be funny. They act like you can't tell there's more alcohol in those beers.

 

So archaic and frustrating. I cannot count how many times I've wanted to grab some beer on Sunday and couldn't. When I spend a weekend in Minneapolis and want to grab a haul on my way out of town on Sunday .... can't. Gotta go Saturday and keep it in a cooler until I get home.

When I go to Surly for a nice lunch and a few beers, and I wanna grab a 4 pack on my way out ... can't.

Come on, Minnesota. You're embarrassing yourself.

 

New York State is actually pretty good, other than grocery stores can only sell beer or "wine product" and liquor stores can sell everything but beer. Buffalo bars open till 4am. And there is no law against being drunk in public. But it is slightly annoying having to make multiple trips to get beer and liquor.

 

But... every time the next day is after midnight the previous day. It's like the 3rd gremlin rule.

I can't recall the actual law, but there is technically no such thing as a "bar" in VA... only a "restaurant with a liquor license". I think 50% of all your sales have to come from food. Breweries are exempt, of course.

 

Ohio ABV laws. I think it's 12%. Yet we can fill up growlers anywhere they fill them and walk around with them. Ridiculous. I don't understand why there would be a cap on ABV for beer, but you can buy wine and "moonshine."

 

Colorado doesn't have as much to complain about as some other states, but we still need some changes.
1) One person may only own 1 liquor store
2) Grocery Stores and gas stations are only allowed to sell crappy 3.2% beer, and no wine or liquor
3) Liquor stores must close at midnight (and probably earlier on Sunday)
4) Need a special license for on-premise consumption, and for take-home sales. (ie can't do both with 1 license).

I'm sure there is other dumb stuff too.

 

Minnesota still will not allow the sale of alcohol on Sunday - although we can now buy growlers. With laws like these we can understand how the ancient Egyptians once worshiped a bug.

 

When I traveled for work I got caught by so many of these blue laws but from 2005 on at least I had the BA website to show me the path to the craft places where I could get the local story. People were amazed at how wild wild west Arizona's laws were compared to theirs.

Anyway, up thread someone stated that Michigan and Massachusetts had ABV caps, is that correct? I don't think that's quite right, but perhaps for only special circumstances maybe? Can anyone from those states elaborate on what the deal is?

 

Kentucky rules because vendors can give out free samples of hard liquor and wine... but it's illegal to give free samples of beer.

 

It's for your safety! I actually haven't the slightest idea why the law is that way in a handful of mid-Atlantic states. I really have no complaints about California other than growler restrictions (can only get them at the brewery - a law I believe the brewer's themselves enjoy) and you have to do a song and dance with tape to cover labels at the places that will fill growlers other than their own. I'm not a big growler guy, so it could be worse. Couldn't get "2 Buck Chuck" (not that I would anyway, but still) at Trader Joe's in PA and most NJ and MD stores where as in CA you can get tequila at TJ's.

 

Liquor and Wine are available in Ohio on Sundays now. Kroger's with liquor stores are regularly open on Sunday's to sell liquor and wine, as well as liquor stores and such. Some large chain shops (Target, Wal-Mart) won't sell wine, but most other places who are open on Sundays will.