Overrated Is Overused

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  1. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    Spot on.... Great article and great point.
    :beer:
     
  2. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Not sure that I agree with your interpretation of this piece of writing - I think what they are saying is that every time your personal opinion is not the same as the collective, it does not mean the beer is overrated but rather that you have a difference of opinion. I don't think they are saying that nothing is overrated or that you cannot/should not feel that way but rather that the use of the term overrated is overused (and sometimes in unwarranted cases).
     
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  3. OakvilleKGB

    OakvilleKGB Zealot (510) Dec 3, 2015 Missouri
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    You are proving my point...this is a matter of opinion.
    When someone uses the word overrated, they mean that their rating is lower than the collective; with the whole idea of a public rating system being opinion based and subjective. The writer (and you in turn (in my opinion)) is misinterpreting the rating as fact and trying to state that his opinion(rating) should mean more than others.
     
  4. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I disagree - overrated is a loaded term with more significant meaning than just the average rating of the collective is higher than my own (it implies disappointing/lower quality/too popular). If you don't think this term is being overused in recent times, then we have a difference of opinion.

    There are many beers that I have rated lower than the collective and I would guess an extremely low amount (if any at all) I would consider to be overrated. I don't believe that my opinion is worth more or less than anyone else's opinion.

    I don't think that the ratings are fact - I think that they are the collective's subjective opinion.
     
  5. OakvilleKGB

    OakvilleKGB Zealot (510) Dec 3, 2015 Missouri
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    I appreciate the constructive responses as I am just looking to have a conversation about the matter; we will have to just agree to disagree on a difference of opinion.
     
  6. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    If someone thinks Cheerios tastes like OJ and chocolate, they are, demonstrably, wrong.
     
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  7. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Opinions are one thing. Informed opinions are another. An overrated product can certainly be overhyped, but it might be overrated for other reasons besides the hypetrain.
     
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  8. OakvilleKGB

    OakvilleKGB Zealot (510) Dec 3, 2015 Missouri
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    This was just a random example of palates are different which is why I love the community of beer because people want to try different things and discuss them.
     
  9. PrimustheOne

    PrimustheOne Devotee (377) Nov 23, 2016 New Hampshire

    If General Mills starts making orange & chocolate Cheerios, you'll make millions for the idea! :slight_smile:
     
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  10. Daveshek28

    Daveshek28 Pundit (785) Nov 10, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Guys, if it's not a hazy, lactose laden, oat cream DIPA or a Barrel aged stout with 15 different adjuncts, then it is overrated! :grin: Just kidding, but I mostly agree with the OP on this topic. Taste is subjective, so there is really no way to convince everyone one way or the other. Example- the discussion has been brought up numerous times on here about people who "hate" sours and actually go ahead and rate sours. If they're saying "overrated", how can you take their word for it when they don't like them to begin with? I'll admit I've thrown out the term "overrated" in regards to beer a few times, but I will now think a little more before quickly throwing it out there.
     
  11. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Taste certainly varies from person to person, but there is such a thing as a trained palate. Everyone who drinks beer is not accurate in their assessment of it, either.

    If you rate a beer or a style that you know you don't like, but tick it or review it anyway because you feel that you need the numbers, you should be covered in honey and tied to an anthill.

    That's probably a good look.
     
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  12. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    So you wouldn't think there was any kind of negative connotation to the term overrated? So you would think a professional athlete that some calls overrated is just slightly below average and nothing negative implied?
     
  13. OakvilleKGB

    OakvilleKGB Zealot (510) Dec 3, 2015 Missouri
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    There is some negative connotation to the term overrated at times, there have just been beers that I would rate lower than the collective rating so that by definition means that they are overrated in my opinion.
     
  14. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I think that if you express that something is overrated to someone else, it always has a negative connotation. If you keep it to yourself with it meaning, "I did not rate that beer as well as other people did", then it can be of a rather neutral one.
     
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  15. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Agreed - this is using a less common definition of a word and assuming everyone else is using that nuance/definition rather than the far more common one. I think that overrated has a negative connotation to everyone I have asked informally today and most people also associate it with overpaying for something.

    Like I said in an earlier posting: "There are many beers that I have rated lower than the collective and I would guess an extremely low amount (if any at all) I would consider to be overrated."
     
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