Overshot OG by over 30 points...

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  1. meatst1ck

    meatst1ck Initiate (193) Feb 22, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Apologies if this question has been asked before, I wasn't able to find anything specifically mentioning everything that happened on my brew day....

    So, this is my second batch using BIAB, and intended on brewing up a ~8% porter (recipe below):

    Brew Method: BIAB
    Style Name: Robust Porter
    Boil Time: 60 min
    Batch Size: 1.5 gallons (fermentor volume)
    Boil Size: 2.5 gallons
    Boil Gravity: 1.056
    Efficiency: 65% (brew house)

    STATS:
    Original Gravity: 1.093
    Final Gravity: 1.031
    ABV (standard): 8.13%
    IBU (tinseth): 41.5
    SRM (morey): 50

    FERMENTABLES:
    4.06 lb - American - Pale 2-Row (67.2%)
    0.34 lb - American - Carapils (Dextrine Malt) (5.6%)
    0.16 lb - United Kingdom - Crystal 70L (2.6%)
    0.34 lb - United Kingdom - Crystal 45L (5.6%)
    0.34 lb - American - Dark Chocolate (5.6%)
    0.34 lb - American - Roasted Barley (5.6%)
    0.23 lb - Flaked Oats (3.8%)
    0.23 lb - Flaked Barley (3.8%)

    HOPS:
    0.23 oz - Columbus, Type: Pellet, AA: 15, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 41.5

    YEAST:
    Danstar Nottingham - 1 packet

    My pre-boil gravity came out to 1.048 (8 points below target), so I decided to extend the boil in hopes of concentrating the wort a bit more.... after boiling for 90 minutes, my OG came out to 1.130 lol!!!

    Did 30 minutes of extra boiling really bump up my OG by THIS much?? And should I consider diluting the fermenter volume with some sanitized water to get closer to the target OG? And if so, would this have any negative consequences on the final product?

    Thanks in advance for any and all help!
     
  2. meatst1ck

    meatst1ck Initiate (193) Feb 22, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Now thinking on it further, perhaps my pre-boil gravity reading wasn't even accurate to begin with? (I didn't cool it down all the way to room temp, it was prob still at 80-90F when I used my hydrometer)
     
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  3. Elvis_on_Bass

    Elvis_on_Bass Crusader (453) Jul 25, 2016 New York

    At hydrometer of 80-90 you would only be off by a little, not near the amount you report. There are temperature corrected calculators that you can find on homebrewing calculator websites, see what one of them say.

    Did you hit your target volume? This seems like too high of a boil off rate (27%?). Also, is your 65% calculated or assumed?

    Honestly I didn't build this in a recipe sheet, I am trusting your targets.

    As far as adding water, this is up to you. It is a standard procedure in extract brewing. Depending on your yeast, it is likely that they wouldn't be able to finish this job before the alcohol concentration got too high. I would strongly consider adding the water
     
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  4. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    I didn't see your actual post-boil volume anywhere. How much wort did you end up with after the boil? If it's less than 1.5 gallons, you should expect your gravity to be higher. I'd top up to 1.5 gallons with boiled and cooled water and call it a day.

    Also, I don't know your system, but that's a pretty pessimistic estimate for efficiency, IMO. I routinely end up with efficiencies in the low 80s with BiaB. Even brewing a beer that big, I'd start by targeting 70-75% efficiency in your recipes, unless you know for a fact that yours is lower.
     
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  5. meatst1ck

    meatst1ck Initiate (193) Feb 22, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Sorry, the 65% efficiency was only an initial estimate (my first biab efficiency was very poor, ~55%).

    My fermenter volume ended up closer to about 1.25 gallons after kettle trub losses.

    I did toss in an entire 11 gram packet of Nottingham, in hopes that it would be able to take it all the way down, though I did mash high at 159F to decrease attenuation a bit.

    And its honestly entirely possible that the hydrometer sample was even warmer than that, I honestly am not sure.

    I am definitely starting to consider adding in some sanitized water though - thanks!
     
  6. meatst1ck

    meatst1ck Initiate (193) Feb 22, 2015 Pennsylvania

    My post boil volume was around 1.4-1.5 gallons, with a bit less in the fermenter after kettle trub loss.

    Yea, I only put in a 65% efficiency estimate because of how poor my first batch efficiency was, but I do think I seem to have improved upon that.

    Thanks for the tips guys! Gonna add in some cooled boiled water and call it a day :slight_smile:
     
  7. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    Well them, you have two options:
    1. Add ~.25 gallons of water to reach your target volume of 1.5 gallons. (You'll end up with stronger beer this way).
    2. Add enough water to reach your target gravity of 1.093. (You'll end up with more beer this way.)
    You can use this calculator to figure it all out: https://www.brewersfriend.com/dilution-and-boiloff-gravity-calculator/
     
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  8. meatst1ck

    meatst1ck Initiate (193) Feb 22, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Awesome!! Think I'll go the way of still trying to hit target gravity.

    Thank you!!! And sorry, I can only imagine how many times this has been asked over the years, but I just wanted to me sure haha

    Cheers!
     
  9. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    btw...I've only taken 1 pre-boil gravity in my entire brewing life...rdwahahb:grin:
     
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  10. meatst1ck

    meatst1ck Initiate (193) Feb 22, 2015 Pennsylvania

    this was my first, and probably my last hahaha :beers:
     
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  11. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

    I find it easier to take a pre boil reading than post boil (don't have to worry about sanitation). You do have to adjust for temperature though. I rarely bother with a post boil reading.
     
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  12. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    I like refractometer for post boil and hydrometer for post fermentation.
     
  13. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Sometimes I say F it and check nothing if I've made the beer before and I'm feeling super lazy.
     
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  14. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah

    I will add that the water should be dechlorinated.

    If fermentation is done, it would be best practice to also deaerate too.
     
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