Oxidation. How long do I have to "enjoy"?

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  1. MLCampbell

    MLCampbell Initiate (0) Oct 8, 2014 Maine

    My first ever batch is ready. I've had a few, but it's blan and kind of tastes like weak wine. I read that this could be due to oxidation, which makes sense considering my troubles during the bottling process.

    How long do I have until my beer is utterly unbearable?

    My second batch is going well. I've learned a lot from my numerous mistakes.
     
  2. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    The 1st batch seldom...if ever...wins an award other than 1D1D1T!

    "How long do I have until my beer is utterly unbearable?"
    Why wait?
    Drink up and get busy brewing more.

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    Your best beer ever
    It may not be but it's beer
    Better brews ahead!

    -1st Biatch HoMeBRew HiaKu
     
  3. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    You can enjoy oxidation as long as you want. It won't go away. :rolling_eyes:
     
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  4. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    And it is only going to progress.
     
  5. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    Just a quick question, is it carbed properly yet?
     
  6. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    I drank/gave away shitty beers for YEARS until I improved my process.
     
  7. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    No way to tell. You'll know, though I suspect you'll tough it out and finish it :grinning:
     
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  8. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    If that was your first batch, there were probably a multitude of problem areas...oxidation can be easily corrected by practicing packaging and racking. Hang in there...it will get better...a lot better. Cheers
     
  9. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Oxidation should taste more like wet cardboard. I'd stay optimistic and hope that your first brew gets better with a little time. If not, I'm glad you're learning from numerous mistakes. You're on the right track.
     
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  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    It can also taste like Sherry. Of coure sherry isn't "weak" wine, but still, if my beer had wine notes I might look at oxidation. Having said that, I haven't ever tasted wine/sherry notes in a beer as fresh as the OP's. But I am tasting them a little bit now (okay, yesterday) in a porter that I have had aging for about 1.5 years.
     
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  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    These two get mentioned the most, and I have definitely experience both, but beer has many compounds that can oxidize and impact flavor. Sometimes, oxidation, may cause flavors to be less vibrant, so the OP's descriptors "bland" and "weak wine" may plausibly be attributed to oxidation.
     
  12. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    Indeed! I once had an extreme in-your-face hoppy DIPA turn into a malt bomb ten days after bottling for competition due to oxidation. No cardboard or sherry. An article by Gordon Strong on oxidation in one of the homebrew rags a few years ago led me to that conclusion. A subsequent discussion pretty much confirmed it.
     
  13. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    That is one of the end compounds. You can also get a honey aroma and flavor, sweet caramel/toffee flavors that should not be there, the sherry, dark fruit and prune aromas. Some oxidation is good in some styles, and wrecks others.
     
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