Pale Ale appreciation thread

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by prior2two, Dec 30, 2021.

  1. Redrover

    Redrover Grand Pooh-Bah (3,490) Jan 18, 2003 Wisconsin
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    Elmhurst Brewery almost always has an PA on tap. Here is the current one:

    English Paradise Pale Ale
    5.4% ABV
    35 IBU
    Single malt Pale Ale, brewed with English malt, hops and yeast.

    Taster 2.50
    Half Pint 4.50
    Pint 7.00
    Crowler 12.00
    Growler 20.00
     
  2. Dizmal

    Dizmal Devotee (341) Oct 28, 2009 Minnesota

    For a more traditional PA I always enjoy;

    Summit EPA
    Fitger's Starfire PA (sadly not in distro anymore that I am aware of)
    Bent Paddle ESB

    Indeed's Day Tripper is good as well, but it has so much hops it's one of those closer to an IPA.
     
  3. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,640) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    Came here to rant about Off Color. But I’ll keep it brief. Edit: I tried to keep it brief. Fail

    beer for lounging is not an American pale ale. I’m not sure what off color did here, that description envokes the memory of one beer and one beer only. SNPA. Problem is the product in my glass it tastes like English pub ale with American hops. Off Color is better than this. Im not sure why they are selling this as APA. It’s not.

    Off Color made customers expect a beer like SNPA… or at least one that paid tribute to SNPA. If you drink this lounge beer and it reminds you of SNPA then your memory is broken. It’s not even close, like not even the same style beer. I haven’t been less impressed by a major top notch brewery that I believe OC is, in a long time.

    I’m left confused by Off Color. They’ve done a bad job messaging this. I’m not sure if they messed up the beer or the messaging. I don’t ever have this confusion with any of their other beers. Even the really weird ones
     
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  4. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (1,651) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    Originally pale ales were just British beers that used little or no roasted malt. Bitters are British pale ales. ESBs were generally a brewery's attempt at a a special bitter: bigger body, but still a session beer. Most American pale ales could qualify under the general British definition. But ours are generally paler, hoppier, and have higher alcohol. The designation IPA (also a pale ale) is too useful as a marketing too to be restricted to a particular style. I think there isn't a useful definition for an American IPA any more, and probably not much of a definition for the style in Britain. I try to have British style pale ales at home, but the style seems to be disappearing around me.
     
  5. prior2two

    prior2two Maven (1,468) Oct 18, 2013 Illinois
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    I completely agree. Beer for Lounging was actually the beer that inspired this thread, and when I read the description, I was super excited to grab a couple 4-packs for NYE weekend.

    However, I went with my wife to mousetrap to grab a drink and I end up trying the beer and left without purchasing any cans. I liked it fine, but it was not something similar to SNPA at all, which is what I went there expecting.
     
  6. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,569) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    I understand your frustration, but given that Off Color has touted this as the first pale ale they have ever made were you expecting greatness? And weren’t they making a tribute, not a clone?
     
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  7. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    The universe of APAs is much much bigger than SNPA. I would not expect a clone of SNPA just because a beer is called an APA.
     
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  8. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,640) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    if I drank it blind, I wouldn’t have guessed APA
     
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  9. prior2two

    prior2two Maven (1,468) Oct 18, 2013 Illinois
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    agree - but the Off Color blog post on the release of the beer was basically a love song to SNPA and how the ingredients chosen were in reverence to SNPA.
     
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  10. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Grand Pooh-Bah (4,764) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois
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    Am I the only one who really enjoyed Beer For Lounging?
     
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  11. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,989) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    I really liked it - I reviewed it in NBS last weekend.
     
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  12. gudbrande

    gudbrande Pundit (796) Jul 10, 2009 Minnesota
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    Opened a BlackStack Who's Idea Was This? Tasty little pale ale, and 4.8%, which is unusual for them. I wish they would make more like this.
     
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  13. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,640) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    Fans of Sierra Nevada should go by some Shield Maiden from miskatonic. One of the original recipes they debuted and have since retired. It made its way back and it’s a real classic APA. It was nice to revisit
     
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  14. prior2two

    prior2two Maven (1,468) Oct 18, 2013 Illinois
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    i liked it enough to order one every time I’m at the mousetrap, or if I somehow see it on draft at a bar.

    Outside of that, I’m not buying a 4-pack of it. Despite the name, it’s not something I want to go back to for a second or third.
     
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  15. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,989) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    I picked up a 4-pack and have no ragrets.

    If I can find fresh SNPA at the grocery store today I'm going to buy some and do a side by side with the Beer for Lounging
     
  16. gudbrande

    gudbrande Pundit (796) Jul 10, 2009 Minnesota
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    That's the way to do Saturday!
     
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  17. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Grand Pooh-Bah (4,764) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois
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    Looks like Maplewood is getting in on the current APA craze!*

    The Lounge R&D series is starting off with one.



    *Yes, I realize this is NOT a craze.
     
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  18. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (3,988) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    "Re-craze?"

    1998 all over again. :wink:
     
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  19. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,640) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    You’ll be impressed by how completely different they are.
     
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  20. prior2two

    prior2two Maven (1,468) Oct 18, 2013 Illinois
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    Half Acre’s version of Brave Noise is kind of everything I want in a Pale. It’s dry, it’s hoppy, and it’s extremely drinkable at 4.5%.

    I thought it was going to be a one off, but if they make this regularly, I will pick it up as long as it’s fresh.
     
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  21. FlaviusG

    FlaviusG Zealot (581) Aug 15, 2009 Illinois
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    Alarmist Pantless is good had it on-site yesterday
     
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  22. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (3,988) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Okay, so I had me a Beer for Lounging today and I have to say, heck yeah -- I definitely get the SNPA influence in this beer. It's not a complete clone (should it be?), but I certainly pick up the parallel characteristics.

    Review to come, but a very satisfying APA.

    I didn't keep @GuyFawkes in the above quote because I wanted my post to be general to the thread.
     
  23. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,640) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    Did you ever get to this side by side tasting?

    fresh pale ale alert! Odell Wolf Picker is out in the market and tastes fantastic. New school pale ale with an experimental hop. Bodem style pale ale
     
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  24. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (1,651) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    Pale ale is a big topic. I'll keep to two styles: 1) US post-prohibition ales with golden body, and often well hopped. Prototype would be Ballantine Ale or McSorleys as they tasted in the 70s. In the late 90s and early 2000s my favorite in the style was Blue Point Pale Ale (rest in peace). I've been looking for a new one for several years. 2) English style pale ale. For years, my favorite beer all around was Blue Point ESB (also disappeared). Current US made favorite is Montauk Driftwood Pale Ale. Fairly malty and mellow.
     
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  25. audis4gasm

    audis4gasm Devotee (315) Oct 19, 2017 Illinois

    This one is really good. They actually won a bronze GABF medal with it.

    Another one I'm surprised not seeing in this thread is Maplewood's Charlatan. It's probably my personal pale ale go-to. It's pretty tasty and very modern in a sense. It still has that classic dankness, but with a hint of fruit.
     
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  26. prior2two

    prior2two Maven (1,468) Oct 18, 2013 Illinois
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    NICE! Will definitely be picking this one up. Drumroll is on my short list of best Pale’s also, so excited to try it.

    Good call on Charlatan. It’s good, but I feel like Son of Juice (an inferior beer) is much more readily available and taken its place.

    Crushinator is also really good.
     
  27. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,989) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    I did not. Had trouble finding fresh SNPA and didn't feel like picking up an old 6-pack.
     
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  28. keilerdunkel

    keilerdunkel Zealot (533) Apr 8, 2004 Illinois

    I just finished my last Beer for Lounging- i really like this beer! It grows on you.

    i wasn’t thrilled with the first, since I had it after a lot of west coast ipas, but each one after really grew on me. I wish that I bought more.

    I’d like to have more pale ales available locally. I’ve tried the Midwest Coast, but it has too much of a roasted malt character, so it seems more like a brown ale- but that could just be my perception.

    Any suggestions for a good British style pale ale? I hope to make it out to Art History to try theirs.
     
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  29. ablackshear

    ablackshear Zealot (659) Sep 17, 2010 Minnesota

    Just got back from a trip to Boston, and enjoying a Night Shift Whirlpool. I'd forgotten how good this one is. It's hazy and not a traditional pale, but fruity and crushable at 4.5%
     
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  30. prior2two

    prior2two Maven (1,468) Oct 18, 2013 Illinois
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    Half Acre just posted smoking gull teaser on insta.


    It’s by far my favorite pale and wish they would make it year round.
     
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  31. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,640) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    When I heard Tuna was being retired, I expected Gull to replace it. It turned out it would be replaced by Tome. I get the hazy decision, but Smoking Gull is so damn good… I wish it would have been Tunas replacement
     
  32. prior2two

    prior2two Maven (1,468) Oct 18, 2013 Illinois
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    Tome is really good.

    But it’s not Gull.
     
  33. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,569) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Tome is for Gull-able people.
     
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  34. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,640) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    Is this where we talking about pale ales of all ABVs? I thought we had a west coast ipa thread, but can’t seem to find it.
    For now, my compliments to Penrose will go here. Scars Are Beautiful is a classic dank San Diego ipa. Very pale, all the hops that made California famous. Bonus, it’s raising money for a good cause. Raising money for cancer research. Damn good dank west coast ipa clocks in at 6%
     
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  35. Max_Powers

    Max_Powers Initiate (190) Jul 3, 2022 Illinois
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    Anybody try the Goose island/Blackhawks Pale Ale? Had it the other day and it was decent.
     
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  36. prior2two

    prior2two Maven (1,468) Oct 18, 2013 Illinois
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    Any tried the new Goose Island No Plans Pale? It comes in 12-packs, so curious if it’s a Day Time/All-Day like beer.

    The Blackhawks one also has me curious.
     
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  37. Jplachy

    Jplachy Pooh-Bah (1,602) Feb 12, 2012 Illinois
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    The malt base on No Plans is like a less bitter more modern take on Green Line. The hops are also citrus forward hops. Its astoundingly easy to drink but nothing revelatory or beyond buying a cheap pack of it at the grocery store.
     
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  38. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,891) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    I tried one for the first time yesterday and though it was solid (rated it 4.0 overall). Similar take with Jplachy, liked the malt and hops flavors, light and easy in terms of ABV and bitterness. These are available in 15 packs as well, though I was told this is the last Chicago brewed GI seasonal that will be sold under the 15 pack format (year round AB brewed beers like IPA and 312 will remain available as 15 packs).

    https://www.gooseisland.com/beers/seasonal-beers/no-plans-pale-ale
     
  39. ablackshear

    ablackshear Zealot (659) Sep 17, 2010 Minnesota

    Phase Three Pixel Density Lite. 4.5% all-Citra hazy pale, I hope I can get cases of it this summer
     
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  40. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,640) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    Roaring Table has a new one coming out this week called Definition Drift. Sounds like a West Coast hazy, or a modern pale ale kind of take.
     
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