Pale Ale Critique. yes, another critique

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  1. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    Grain,
    5 lbs bohemian pilsner malt
    4 lbs marris otter
    1 lb dark munich
    4 oz carapils dextrin

    OG 1.054
    39.6 IBUs

    Hops
    .50 oz centennial FWH 60 min
    .50 oz chinook 10 mins
    .50 oz cascade 5 mins
    .50 oz centennial 15 min hop stand
    .50 oz chinook 15 min hop stand
    .50 oz cascade 15 minute hop stand

    Yeast
    WLP001 california ale

    Dry hop
    1 oz whole leaf cascade

    Misc.
    Gypsum
    Ph 5.2 stabilizer
    Irish moss

    Mash
    153 60 min

    Pitch at 65F

    Ferment 2 weeks in primary dry hop ffor 3 days cold crash for 2. Bottle condition 2 weeks.
     
  2. mugs1789

    mugs1789 Zealot (611) Dec 6, 2005 Maryland

    why the carapils? Is that unfermentable?
     
  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Do you know why you are adding gypsum and how much? i.e. do you know your water profile without it? Also, pH 5.2 stabilizer is ineffective.
     
  4. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    What are you aiming for? The grain bill seems a little odd to me. Also, what VikeMan said.
     
  5. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    I want it to have a slight maltiness to it but not to over power the hops. I know the grain bill is untraditional but i think it will make for a delicious beer. As for the gypsom i dont know. Ive read about it in another recipe and thought it might help..
     
  6. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    I use gallon jugs of purified water if that helps
     
  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    If by purified you mean distilled or RO, then you'll definitely want to add some calcium (as Gypsum and/or as Calcium Chloride), both to bring the pH into range and to aid yeast flocculation. But I'd recommend using a spreadsheet water calculator to plan that. Don't fly blind.
     
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  8. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    Forget the Pils and use all Marris Otter, you'll thank me later.
     
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  9. bcoyle

    bcoyle Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2011 Massachusetts

    Agree on this, Marris Otter will be better. Also I would read up more on water/pH before you start adding chemicals or have your water tested to see what, if any, chemicals are needed. Without getting into the nerdy "Chemistry" of Gypsum brewers main use of it is to increase the presence of hops (smell and taste), but there is WAYYYYYY more reason on why brewers use it. I will leave that up to you to read/research. FYI the book Water: A Comprehensive Guide for Brewers is a great read and start.
     
  10. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    Ive done all marris otter brew before and wanted to switch it up and try something with a bit more complexity and uniqueness. Thats the magic of homebrewing. I just want a really clear beer this go around. I usually whirlpool and syphon the side througha strainer into another sanitized pot Then transfer that into my carboy. I might add a step this time and use a cheesecloth over my funnel for extra filtration. Anybody have a technique they use for clear beer?
     
  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Sometimes there's nothing wrong with mixing up the base malts. My Blonde Ale has 5 (technically) base malts and no (technically) specialty grains. I bet nobody could ever guess what those 5 malts are just by tasting, but the combined result is very nice.
     
  12. bcoyle

    bcoyle Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2011 Massachusetts

    There are many ways to get "clear" beer, but certain yeast and grains will always produce a cloudy or chill haze beer. I usually just always make sure I have happy healthy yeast, from a starter, and sometimes I will cold crash. I also use whirfloc or Irish Moss 15/10 minutes left in the boil. I usually always get clear beers (unless I use a lot of wheat or hefe yeast strain)
     
  13. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    I usually only let my ipas ferment for 5-8 days because thats when they finish then dry hop and cold crash. I think ill let it sit for 2 weeks and let the yeast clean it up some more then dry hop
     
  14. bcoyle

    bcoyle Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2011 Massachusetts

    I like that schedule, if you keg I would perform your dry hop schedule on CO2 around 60F and then cold crash to 30F and serve. I have found that the hop aromas and punch are more present when I dry hop on CO2 and the aroma lasts longer.
     
  15. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    I bottle unfortunately. No room for a keg ..yet* the wife might give in soon...she loves hoppy beers so if I keep making them good she'll approve. Cross your fingers
     
  16. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    Would steeping my 1 oz whole leaf cascades be more beneficial than dry hopping to avoid cloudiness?
     
  17. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    Not sure what your space looks like, but once you get brewing a lot, a kegerator and accessories wind up taking up a lot less space than cases of bottles. :sunglasses:
     
  18. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

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    If not fining after the boil, I think if I were still bottling regularly and expecting to drink my beer in only about a month, I'd be using a highly flocculant yeast like WY 1968/WLP 002. I like the recipe.

    edit: what's the rush?
     
  19. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Looks sound to me, if not a bit odd for the malt bill.

    I'd just do some pils and maybe a character malt, like crystal even. It's a APA, so I can see a bit of body and sweetness in there.
     
  20. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    Luckily I have a 7 hop double ipa still conditioning so I have some time. Also what if drop the dark munich to .5 lbs? Or just drop it all together?
     
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