Paste Magazine reviews Milkshake IPAs

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  1. cid71

    cid71 Initiate (95) Mar 2, 2009 New Jersey

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  2. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Crusader (759) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    Understand the tastings rely on “breweries that choose to participate,” but one might expect such a tasting to include the architect behind the style via “locally available purchases and the occasional trade”
     
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  3. MNAle

    MNAle Savant (956) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Here's a quote that just invites you to add these beers to your shopping list:

    "...when done well, some of these milkshake IPAs are actually sort of great."

    Talk about damning with faint praise!
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,618) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “The other, more unfortunate, thing to say about milkshake IPA is that many of them are just plain bad—syrupy, saccharine sweet monstrosities that have been completely dominated by fruit or spice additions to the point where they’re close to undrinkable. Vanilla is often a key culprit, and we’ve tasted more than one milkshake IPA that had all the seeming of a melted Yankee Candle. If we’re being reminded of Southern Tier Pumking while drinking a milkshake IPA, that’s a very bad sign.”

    I was tempted to stop reading the article after this paragraph.

    Cheers!
     
  5. Lucular

    Lucular Poo-Bah (1,701) Jun 20, 2014 Maryland
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    Plus they limited entries to one per brewery and ended up with just 27 entries. They just did a tasting of 324(!) IPAs - it's as though they were afraid of having to actually drink the stuff!
     
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  6. Squire

    Squire Poo-Bah (1,943) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    When done well most beer styles can approach greatness, except of course for smoked beer which the Devil created for his own use.
     
  7. Squire

    Squire Poo-Bah (1,943) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Does smack of timidness doesn't it.
     
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  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,618) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    As they stated in the article:

    “The other, more unfortunate, thing to say about milkshake IPA is that many of them are just plain bad..."

    Cheers!
     
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  9. Squire

    Squire Poo-Bah (1,943) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    I wonder when Paste secures their own samples do they then ask the Brewers for permission to include those in the taste test.
     
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  10. Daveshek28

    Daveshek28 Initiate (173) Nov 10, 2015 New York

    In Missy Elliot Tone- "these milkshakes bring the hazebros to the lines", their life is better than yours, there life is better than yours. Ok that was terrible, I apologize. I'd like to see them get their hands on the $25 four packs of tired hands shakes, or the cream/fruit/pastry IPAs from Decadent Ales.
     
  11. Lahey

    Lahey Disciple (313) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    I've tried two of the style. The first had peach flavor but still retained some bitterness to remind you it's an ipa. The second one was a creamy muddled mess with no real direction. Calling it a fruit beer would have been probably more accurate than ipa taste-wise.
     
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  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,618) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    There are plenty of traders/mules that would be willing to re-sell Tired Hands Shakes to Paste Magazine but the price would be well north of 25 bucks!!

    Cheers!

    P.S. I was at Tired Hands earlier today for lunch. In today's release there is a beer that cost $27 a four-pack.
     
  13. Daveshek28

    Daveshek28 Initiate (173) Nov 10, 2015 New York

    Crazy, $27. But if they continue to get lines and sell out of them quickly at that price, then why not charge it...
     
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  14. Squire

    Squire Poo-Bah (1,943) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    God love 'em, have to admire their persistence. On the other hand for $27.00 I can get a 30 pack of Miller High Life. Oh, wait, I can get two.
     
  15. Dragginballs76

    Dragginballs76 Poo-Bah (1,859) Nov 13, 2015 South Carolina
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    This explains why I have not had a milkshake IPA that I liked, seems like I have not had any of the good ones!!!
     
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  16. Lahey

    Lahey Disciple (313) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    Holy shit, good for them. Thank god I don't drink the new ipa styles much. My wife likes NEIPAs (not milkshake), but she won't spend that much. She cringes at 20 dollar 4 packs as it is, rarely gets them
     
  17. Livyatan1996

    Livyatan1996 Aspirant (256) Sep 29, 2017 Missouri

    didn't even realize Little Big Hop had lactose but it sure is tasty. seems pretty silly to even do this article with so little but gotta get the bros to click eh
     
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  18. thebeers

    thebeers Poo-Bah (2,121) Sep 10, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    Think this is the first Paste list where I haven't heard of a single one of the beers included.
     
  19. BayAreaJoe

    BayAreaJoe Zealot (512) Nov 23, 2017 California
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    I've tried quite a few and still haven't found one that I really liked a lot and would purchase again. Most over-hyped new category that never lives up to the billing.
     
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  20. Amendm

    Amendm Aspirant (283) Jun 7, 2018 Rhode Island
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    I’m surprised that none of the winners were from New England.
    Next, they should review orange haze bombs.
     
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  21. meefmoff

    meefmoff Zealot (520) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I've never had a milkshake IPA, but I have had a couple of Grimm's lactose-fruit-dry hopped Berlinner Weisse "pop" thingies. Despite rolling my eyes a bit at the description on the label I have to admit they were pretty tasty, at least as a one and done.
     
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  22. meefmoff

    meefmoff Zealot (520) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    We're not really ground zero for these though are we? There's not many on the shelves here that I've seen and the only brewery I can think of near me that's leaning into them even a bit is Mystic. Neither Trillium nor Treehouse makes one to my knowledge (though I could certainly be wrong on that).

    I thought Pennsylvania and to a lesser extent New York were the hotspot for these, so I was surprised to see such a wide number of states represented.
     
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  23. Squire

    Squire Poo-Bah (1,943) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Think this is the first Paste list I didn't bother to read.
     
  24. Amendm

    Amendm Aspirant (283) Jun 7, 2018 Rhode Island
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    Try some Lord Hobo, Boomsauce and Virtuoso look like OJ with a head.
     
  25. meefmoff

    meefmoff Zealot (520) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I'm confused. Neither of those have lactose in them and therefore would not be eligible for this taste test.
     
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  26. Amendm

    Amendm Aspirant (283) Jun 7, 2018 Rhode Island
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    "Next, they should review orange haze bombs."

    I was thinking of an entirely new review.
     
  27. meefmoff

    meefmoff Zealot (520) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Ah got ya! Sorry, we were talking past each other apparently. I was meaning to say I didn't think we had many milkshakes up here in NE. You are right that we definitely do not lack for orange haze bombs! :slight_smile:
     
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  28. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (6,037) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I had the Cloud Catcher and it probably got high marks because it didn't taste like it was a true Milkshake.
     
  29. darktronica

    darktronica Poo-Bah (1,735) Aug 29, 2014 Indiana
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    That's not even a Missy Elliot song; it was Kelis.
     
  30. Oktoberfiesta

    Oktoberfiesta Aspirant (235) Nov 16, 2013 New Mexico

    Admittedly, I haven't tried many lactose riddled IPAs that werent also sours. Or just sours with lactose added in as well. Both of those combos worked extremely well , to the point I wonder if you can even find a good balance with milk sugar sweetness without also adding in the tartness. Looking like that may be a no for the majority
     
  31. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Meyvn (1,075) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I keep walking past all the Decadent stuff in the beer shop and it seems like everyone else is. Not going to pay $20 a 4 pack. I wonder how long it will take till they stop ordering it. It has to be costly for the distributor to comp the account for hundreds of dollars of dusty milkshakes.
     
  32. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Meyvn (1,392) Sep 15, 2014 New York

    I'm so sick of $20+ four packs from all the new breweries lately. I complained of this problem months ago in some thread and it's only getting worse. If things continue to go in this direction, beer will soon become only a luxury beverage.
     
  33. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Meyvn (1,075) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Beer will remain the same.. these high priced options will soon cease to exist because the people that buy them do it for one time ticks/reviews and are not loyal to the brands.
     
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  34. TheGent

    TheGent Meyvn (1,228) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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  35. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,415) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    If you are curious for a good example of the style try to get some Tired Hands stuff, and DEFINITELY continue to walk past the awful crap from Decadent Ales.
     
  36. thebeers

    thebeers Poo-Bah (2,121) Sep 10, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    Tired Hands is generally very tasty. As for pricing, their Cherry Cheesecake Double IPA Milkshake this week was $25/4-pack and they also had a non-shake Triple IPA for $27/4-pack.
     
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  37. augiecarton

    augiecarton Initiate (164) Oct 22, 2010 New Jersey
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    it isn't, in fact that was the joke. it was clear in spite of lactose and oats and it tasted like a fruit without adding that fruit. of course there is the fact that it's named after a study saying no one knows what they know, so it is a little funny it showed up in there... i don't know
     
  38. augiecarton

    augiecarton Initiate (164) Oct 22, 2010 New Jersey
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    :slight_smile:
     
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  39. NYR-Zuuuuc

    NYR-Zuuuuc Aspirant (288) Jan 1, 2013 Connecticut

    This is the one style that I just can't get behind. I haven't had anything that I even remotely liked. That said, I haven't had anything from Tired Hands. I am going to have to hold off final judgement till I try one of theirs. Sounds to me that they are in a different class then most others....looking forward to trying one (I think)....
     
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  40. augiecarton

    augiecarton Initiate (164) Oct 22, 2010 New Jersey
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    not sure how dunning ended up in but when i saw this i reached out and explained the beer's idea being other ways to handle what we think we know about fruit/hops and oats and lactose and that it was kind of the anti milk shake/ne ipa they took it right out. so they are responsive