Paulaner Premium Pils Recipe

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  1. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    This is my proposed recipe. Any comments/suggestions for improvements are more than welcome.

    Paulaner Premium Pils

    German Pilsner
    All Grain
    Batch Size: 5.5 gallons (post-boil amount)
    OG: 1.048
    FG: 1.009
    ABV: 5.1%
    IBU: 32.8 (Tinseth)
    Mash Efficiency: 70%

    Grain Bill:

    German Pilsner Malt: 8.77 lbs (87.5%)
    Munich Malt (Light): 1.00 lb (10.0%)
    Aciduated Malt: 0.25 lbs. (2.5%)

    Hops (Pellets):

    Magnum, 17.0% AA, 0.5 oz., 60 min.
    Hallertau Mittlefruh, 4.4% AA, 10 min.
    Spalt, 4.4% AA, 0 min.

    Yeast: Wyeast 2124/WLP830

    Process:

    Single Infusion Mash @149F, 90 minutes.
    90 Minute Boil.
    Cool to 45F, add yeast, let rise to 49F, let ferment.
    When 5 points above FG, do diacetyl rest, 2-3 days.
    Cool slowly to 45F, transfer to keg.
    Cool slowly to 40F, then crash to 33F and lager.
     
  2. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    I forgot to add:

    Hallertau Mittlefruh, 4.4% AA, 0.5 oz., 10 min.
    Spalt, 4.4% AA, 0.5 oz., 0 min.
     
  3. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    Personally, I like German pilsners with some late hop additions, but they do not strike me as authentic. Usually my late hop addition is around 20 minutes left in the boil. Maybe there is something I'm missing, but it's my understanding that late hopping is not normal in a German pils.
     
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  4. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    Thanks scottakelly. I have not found any Paulaner Premium Pils recipes at all (however, lots of Paulaner Weissebier recipes), so I had to rely on what information was available on this beer. From the Brewery description, they mentioned that they used 3 hops - the Magnum for bittering, and two aroma hops: Hallertau Traditional and Hallertau Spalter. Since they mentioned these as aroma hops and not flavor hops, I assumed that they should be added as a late addition.

    See, for example:
    https://www.sheehanfamilycompanies.com/portfolio/paulaner/paulaner-premium-pils

    Also for verification:

    http://www.samsmith.com/library/PAUPIL.pdf
     
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  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    It’s been quite a while since I had Paulaner Premium Pils but my vague recollection is that did not have a lot of hop aroma. Needless to say but this could also be an artifact that we rarely obtain German beers at their peak of flavor (i.e., fresh) so maybe the lack of hop aroma was due to the long voyage from Germany to my retailer?

    There is diversity in German brewed Pilsners. Below are some extracts from the below linked article.

    “German [Pils] are lighter bodied, and certainly bitter but not very hops-aromatic. They tend to have a drier, crisper finish, but the German Pils is really different from north to south.”

    And:

    “There is even more variation among the German-brewed Pils. Commonly imported examples such as Schonramer Pils from Bavaria, the industrial and very light Jever, and the Rothaus Pils from the Black Forest region provide a spectrum of Pilsner character. Brynildson, however, recommends a beer-tour of Germany to discover the full range of Pilsner for yourself. He says talking to German brewers and drinkers led him to some truly remarkable examples.”

    https://beerandbrewing.com/the-pilsner-landscape/

    I found a nice description of Schonramer Pils courtesy of Draft Magazine:

    Schonramer Pils

    Private Landbrauerei Schonram

    Petting/Schönram,

    Official Website

    German Pilsner

    ABV: 5.0%

    IBU: 37



    RATING

    93



    With more than 200 years of brewing history, Schonram's brewery has mastered its craft, producing beers that are refreshing and memorable. Today, head brewer Eric Toft, who hails from Wyoming, continues the quality brewing tradition locals have come to expect. This pilsner is light gold in color with good clarity and a beautiful, frothy white head. The aroma is clean, with crisp floral hop notes built upon a bready malt foundation. This comes through clearly at the front of the flavor as well, with a slight caramelized malt accent. Hopping is clearly intended only to balance, not to overwhelm. The hops simply lend a moderate floral spiciness to the flavor that lasts well into the aftertaste. This pilsner is wonderfully refreshing, soft, gently carbonated and is a great representation of the German brewing tradition.

    http://draftmag.com/reviews/detail/448

    Cheers!
     
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  6. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    I also don't have much recollection for the aroma. I had it on tap once and it was MUCH better than in the bottle (the bottled version was readily available in Austin Texas). Thus your theory about the diminished hop aroma being a result of the voyage from Germany might well be correct.

    The real distinction, IMO is it's very smooth, almost creamy malty flavor. Thus the addition of the Munich malt. At 33 IBU, there's also not as much bitterness as in some other German pilsners. Because of the low amount of aroma, I had decided to only add half an ounce of aroma hops (at 0 minutes) rather than a full ounce. That way you get just a hint of the aroma.
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    FWIW I think the beer recipe you formulated will make a tasty beer.

    As to whether it will create a clone of Paulaner Premium Pils?

    Cheers!
     
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  8. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    Whether it will be a clone or not, it will still be fun to drink :-) Also, I can't purchase any here in Canada to compare it with. For some reason they only stock the Paulaner Hefe-Weissbier here.
     
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  9. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Recipe looks good. Consider skipping the late hops as others mentioned. But ultimately brew whatever YOU think you would enjoy best. Cheers.
     
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  10. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    I might revise the recipe and add both 'aroma' hops at five or ten minutes left in the boil.
     
  11. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    Recipe looks fine. You have to start somewhere. I would brew as is and adjust from there. Take care!
     
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  12. Silver_Is_Money

    Silver_Is_Money Devotee (337) Jun 4, 2017 Ohio

    I would not add any hops past 10 minutes remaining in the boil. 60 min. and 15 min. is probably where I would add them.
     
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  13. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    Thanks, based on the many recommendations, I will revise the recipe and add the two aroma hops both at 15 minutes left in the boil.

    Magnum, 17.0% AA, 0.42 oz., 60 min.
    Hallertau Mittlefruh, 4.4% AA, 0.5 oz., 15 min.
    Spalt, 4.4% AA, 0.5 oz., 15 min.

    IBU: 32.9 (Tinseth)
     
  14. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I enjoy late hop additions in my pilsners. Mmmmm, pilsners.
     
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  15. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
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    I also enjoy dry-hopping my pilsners, may not be traditional...but 'tis damn tasty! :slight_smile:

    You probably won't need a diacetyl rest, especially with fermenting as low as you are. I assume since you are pitching at 45F, that you are pitching an appropriate amount of yeast (372 billion cells according to yeastcalc). I've found that with a large pitch and low ferment, I do not need to do a d-rest with most lager strains.

    Now, were I to pitch less cells and start the ferment at 60-65 then drop down to 50, as is common practice among homebrewers, I would def do a d-rest.

    I suppose you could always do a forced diacetyl rest if you're worried.

    Not that a diacetyl rest is hard to do, but would probably save you about a week of raising temp, then lowering again.
     
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  16. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    Excellent points. The main reason I would do a rest is to get the FG down to 1.009. Without a rest, aeration (O2) and a healthy crop of yeast, it would likely only go down to about 1.012.
     
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    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
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    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

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  19. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    I just had the Hacker-Pschorr Munich Gold tonight. Imported from Germany and in a 500 ml can. An excellent German lager.
     
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  20. TheBeerery

    TheBeerery Initiate (0) May 2, 2016 Minnesota

    No late hops in paulaner and definitely no spalt. Grainbill looks decent. I would shoot for about 26-28ibu. Get the beer super dry. 60 minute boil hops at 60/30/20. Don’t forget the sauergut, PP has a lot of that flavor.
     
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