Paulaner question?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Märzen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oktoberfest
Hope this helps. Cheers.

 

I think the weisn version contains wheat.

 

No, the Wiesen style is what the serve at the Oktoberfest. It does not contain any wheat as a bottom fermented Lagerbier. Note the spelling difference. Wiesen means medow.

 

According to the descriptions on BA there are a few differences, one rotates the other year round, and it looks like the Marzen is a maltier amber beer. But its interesting their not on the paulaner site.

 

The Märzen style was traditional. What has happened in the last 20 years or so is a lighter style at the Oktoberfest, to be quaffed in Maß quantities.

 

I'm really shooting in the dark but I think the Marzen was meant to be a more traditional brew.

 

Yes. This. While I was typing

 

To me the wiesen tastes probably closer to their helles than their Oktoberfest marzen.

 

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/oktoberfest-wiesn-and-märzen.110817/

 

Wiesn is what the Oktoberfest is called in German.

 

Oktoberfest Märzen is a more traditional darker Märzen.
The Wiesn is a pale Märzen that is served at the actual Munich Oktoberfest

 

Here are some interesting advertisements from Oktoberfest in different years:





The first ad is from 1897 where Thomasbräu is advertising their Märzen and their Pilsner (which they started brewing around 1895) for sale at the Wintzerer Fähndl. The next ad is from 1910 where Thomasbräu again advertises their Märzen but now the pale offering is called hell Urtyp instead, again at Wintzerer Fähndl. The third image is from 1926 by which time Paulaner has taken over Thomasbräu and are offering both Paulaner Märzen and Thomasbräu Hell Urtyp, again at the Winzerer Fähndl. The fourth image is from 1936 where Paulaner Märzen and Thomasbräu Hell Urtyp are advertised for sale at Winzerer Fähndl (Paulaner is nowadays serving their pale Oktoberfest beer at Winzerer Fähndl). Worth noting in the fourth image from 1936 is that Augustiner is offering their Edelstoff Hell, Löwenbräu their Hellquell Export, and Pschorrbräu their Edelhell next to their Märzen.

 

Check out the accompanying quote below:

To add to the above, their Wiesn is sometimes packaged in mixed packs or in a can along with a 1 liter dimpled glass stein.

@Urk1127 , note the year-round reference above - which might help you with your other thread questions.

I know you've received your answer regarding why brew two versions... but if some American craft brewers can make 20 different IPAs, then Paulaner can surely make 2 "Oktoberfests."

If a German brewer calls their beer a "Festbier" it might be the pale interpretation.

Paulaner claims to have developed or co-developed both beer types, but @Crusader can weigh in on that claim.

 

I think its good you asked this question since those who know and discuss the pros and cons of each version seldom bother to explain to the rest of us what is/was going on with those two different versions.

 

As an aside, I really miss Hacker Pschorr's Edelhell. We have only gotten the Munich Gold for some time now. I remember the Edelhell being a touch brighter and hoppier.

 

To add to my post, calling one beer "original" and one "authentic" in a campaign is an interesting use of marketing-speak.