Pellet hop storage after opening

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  1. Alteredstate

    Alteredstate Initiate (0) Mar 5, 2015 New Jersey

    I started buying hops in bulk and I grabbed a food saver mini plus to shrink wrap/store them after opening the original package. I noticed after the food saver stops I still have air pockets ? Do they make different thickness for the bags? The bags I have seem to be a bit thick, could this be my problem.
     
  2. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Yeah, honestly I would say that this is your problem, in the sense that you should be able to get a good seal with your food saver. I have one too, and most times I get a good seal, but every once in a while I end up with a little air inside. I just re-try until it works.

    When it's failed for me, personally, it's been when there was moisture inside the bag (along the edge where it's supposed to seal) or when there is a little bit of hop dust/debris (again, same area), causing inability for the heating element to provide a proper seal.

    My advice would be to work on your technique. It should be easy once you get it. Good luck.
     
  3. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Nothings perfect, hops can emit sticky shit that make vacuum sealers less than 100% effective on a bad day. :slight_smile:
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    That is a Gold Medal statement right there!:slight_smile:

    Cheers to you sir!!
     
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  5. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    You must be drunk, too :slight_smile:
     
  6. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    that makes three of us
     
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  7. bgjohnston

    bgjohnston Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2009 Connecticut

    I just finished bottling, and saw this question. Since folks are weighing in with the specifics about a food saver, I would like to ask of those who know, how does this technique compare to simply mechanically re-sealing the container and keeping the bag in the freezer (I double bag with an additional freezer bag)?

    Do you notice that you avoid significant aroma loss? How much additional time did it seem to give you? I had some leftovers from a year-old pound of Cascade that I used as a bittering hop recently, as I was reluctant to try to use it for aroma additions. However, when the weighed amount warmed up, it filled the room with a nice fresh aroma that I remembered from the first time I opened the bag.

    Don't get me wrong, if you are routinely buying bulk hops and brewing recipes that require fresh aroma additions, I could see taking significant measures to preserve them as much as possible. But is the strategy to keep them fresh for longer than a year? or mostly to just minimize degradation of the aroma characteristics, regardless of how long you are keeping them?

    Thanks for your thoughts.
     
  8. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    what do you mean by mechanically resealing? I only tape my bag back up and I dont experience any dropoff. I go through a lot of hops and if they are in there for an extended time I try to use them up within 6 months or so
     
  9. bgjohnston

    bgjohnston Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2009 Connecticut

    Mechanically in that I fold the bag and either clip or sometimes staple the bag shut, then place it in a larger freezer bag. I squeeze out extra air, but nothing as thorough as a food sealer.
     
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  10. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I have similar results w/out the use of a food saver.
     
  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    That is exactly what I do as well and I have had very good experience with this method.

    Cheers!
     
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  12. GUNSLINGER

    GUNSLINGER Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2013 Colorado

    Make sure you get enough of the bag into the vacuum area to get a good seal. I notice a lot of people try to insert the smallest amount of bag into the machine and these people usually get poor seals.

    Insert the end of the bag all the way into the channel with the removable tray and seal away.

    This may not be the case for you, but I've seen enough people do this that I thought I'd pass on the info.

    If you're having issues with residue on the inside of the bag where the heat seal is made- simply wipe/clean it off before sealing.
     
  13. RashyGrillCook

    RashyGrillCook Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2011 Florida

    So long as your pulling a decent vacuum the air pockets are nothing to worry about. A thicker bag will resist punctures and wear better than the thinner bags. Also, I believe the thicker plastic bags have better oxygen barrier properties as well. The main reason for pulling a vacuum in the first place is to rid the storage container of O2. I have been using mason jars for several years to store my hops after opening. FoodSaver makes a vacuum canning attachment that works perfectly for drawing out the oxygen from mason jars and I, by far, prefer this method to bags for the storage of hops.
     
  14. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    Some times i have to push down on mine to get a better vacuum seal or else it seals with air still inside. I also double seal on both sides.
     
  15. Alteredstate

    Alteredstate Initiate (0) Mar 5, 2015 New Jersey

    I made some adjustments based on the suggestions and I have a better seal now
     
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