Pellet hops do not measure 1 oz.

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  1. tngolfer

    tngolfer Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2012 Tennessee

    I usually buy Hop Union hops in pellet form, 1 oz. packages. My LHS only had BSG, 1 oz. pkgs, in Centennial this time. I'm brewing now and just weighed the packages. Taring out the package the amount of hops in each is only 0.93 oz. and 0.85 oz. I mean if we are going to get technical the package claims 1 oz so by significant figures they are ok but come on, BSG.

    Does anybody else verify the weight and have you noticed being shorted?
     
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  2. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I am, by nature, paranoid about things like this. I always measure my hops and have never had an issue.
     
  3. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I once had a hop union tettnang "1 oz" package that clearly felt light. I measured it at .45 oz. I used 1.45 oz's in that Helles.
     
  4. flagmantho

    flagmantho Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,674) Feb 19, 2009 Washington
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    Yeowch. I buy hops in 1-lb packages from Hops Direct, a farm here in Washington. They usually come in at 1.1 or 1.2 lbs -- that's like 3 free ounces. Woo!
     
  5. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I've never been that paranoid. Generally, homebrew stores are a little heavy-handed with measurements. I'd find something that weighs an oz and check the calibration on your scale. If you're right, you can take some pics and send an email.
     
  6. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Timely post.

    Just bought 2-1# packages of hops from Nikobrew
    Used a postal scale to weigh them both on arrival
    RED flag: 1# on the fookin'money

    Opened one bag last weekend then stored unused amount in another container.
    Package weight: 11.5 grams (0.4 oz)

    1# of Nikobrew packaged hops = 442.8 grams
    Package weight (tare) = 11.5 grams
    Shortage = -11.5 / 442.8 = -2.5%

    Nikobrew claims to sell 'full' pounds.
    Apparently not.
    Buyer's deserve better.

    ---
    This isn't just a problem with Nikobrew
    Same experiences with the LHBS ... o-LHBS ... and the corner deli.

    Buyer beware!
     
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  7. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    And I had to look. You can use 5 quarters or 28 large paper clips. :slight_smile:
     
  8. Smw356

    Smw356 Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2013 Ohio

    This is why you always buy slightly more hops than you need
     
  9. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I have a pretty good scale they goes out to .001 grams/ounce. I've only once had a commercial pack come up less than 1 ounce. BSG bag. Hop Union was .99 so I let it slide :slight_smile: .


    I know my scale is correct as its an expensive lab precision balance, that I calibrate. I've only been over weight on the bulk buys from places like Yakima and hops direct. Unless it's a hop they don't grow and contract then it's pretty spot on for the weight. Within an ounce.
     
  10. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Hops, like other commodities :slight_smile:, can dry out and weigh less than when packaged...just say'in...never had a problem myself.
     
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  11. epic1856

    epic1856 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2006 California

    This is actually a big no-no for any business. I hear in the news a couple times a year a grocery store getting fined because their scales are off. I know my LHBS has a sticker from the Dept of Weights and Measures certifying the scales they use.
     
  12. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    Ditto.
     
  13. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    That sounds like my days in college, getting shorted on a dime bag :wink:

    I usually weigh my hops, especially if I'm doing a 1.5 oz or 2.75 oz. addition, etc. I've noticed a few times the bag being at .9 oz, or sometimes I've even gotten a 1.1 oz! It's never been too off though, so I've never worried about it.
     
  14. mbbransc

    mbbransc Initiate (0) Mar 24, 2009 North Carolina

    I've had the exact opposite experience from NikoBrew. I've probably bought 10# of hops from them in the past 18mo and every bag has been over 1#. Hope they haven't changed up their service. I haven't ordered in a while and am putting together my schedule for the next couple of months right now.
     
  15. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    I could see losing .01-.03 oz from moisture loss. But losing .15 oz from moisture in pelletized hops would be pretty noticeable (if even possible in a sealed package) when you poured them on the scale.

    I mean, the moisture content allowed for bailed hops is only 12%...assuming that pellets have the same moisture content as dried cones (doesn't seem likely) then it seems relatively unlikely that you could lose 15% of the weight through moisture loss.

    I could be mistaken on the relation of moisture content and weight though.
     
  16. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    They should be properly dried when packaged. If they 'dry out' they are likely oxidized and worthless.

    And a big thumbs up to hopsdirect - their 'pounds' are usually 18-20oz, not to mention their extremely reasonable prices.
     
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  17. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Seeds and stems included at no extra charge :slight_smile:
     
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  18. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    If they are in an air-tight sealed package, then it won't weight less even if they do dry out.
     
  19. bushycook

    bushycook Zealot (681) Jan 31, 2011 Virginia

    2 beads of weed per seed...
     
  20. jmarsh123

    jmarsh123 Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2010 Indiana
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    I had this issue recently although I don't remember if the hops came from Farmhouse or Midwest as I'd ordered from both recently and didn't check. Bought a 1 lb bag that came up woefully short. Only 13 oz. I know my scale is calibrated because I usually buy from the LHBS and it always comes out right.
     
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