Periodically closing down brewery specific threads

Discussion in 'Pacific' started by John_M, Mar 8, 2018.

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  1. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    A number of frequent contributors to the NW forum have suggested that the current Great Notion thread be closed down. Closing down brewery specific threads is actually pretty common in other parts of the country, with some area members maintaining monthly updated threads (I think the NE forum has close to a dozen of them at the present time). In other words, every month the current brewery specific thread is closed down and a new one started (typically with some basic retained information about brewery releases, hours, bottle/can sales, etc.). At one point there was some discussion of doing away with these monthly threads, as they're something of a pain in the ass to maintain, and in some regions they take up a lot of space in the regional front/top forum page. Ultimately, it was decided that the benefit of maintaining these threads outweighed the hassle, and so they continue to exist today.

    In the NW, I've always thought that maintaining a monthly brewery page really isn't necessary, as there simply isn't the same level of FOMO out here that you find elsewhere. That's just my opinion however, and I obviously don't speak for everyone.

    My point being, that I'd be more than happy to periodically close down some of the brewery specific threads if that's what everyone else would like to see happen. I don't personally care either way, but if we can reach some sort of consensus on need and closure/reopening frequency, I'll be happy to help out in any way that I can to make that happen.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    I don't think it needs to be done monthly, maybe just when a thread gets unwieldy or devolves. The Fremont thread dates to 2014, and the Reubens thread to 2015. Both of those could use a reboot, IMHO.
     
  3. ElijahSF

    ElijahSF Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    "maintaining a monthly brewery page really isn't necessary, as there simply isn't the same level of FOMO out here that you find elsewhere."

    Maintaining a monthly brewery page doesn't necessarily coincide with FOMO. Also FOMO can sometimes be mistaken for passion and there's absolutely nothing wrong with being passionate about beer, but hey, do as you wish.
     
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  4. ballardbeer

    ballardbeer Pundit (779) Nov 10, 2013 Oregon

    Deleting my original post and just ignoring instead
     
  5. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    The fact that we've been able to maintain brewery threads for multiple years shows that we tend to stay pretty immune from fads and trends. The Flavor of the Week breweries likely can't maintain that level of interest. In fact, a lot of those breweries haven't even been open years. And, no, "passion" does not equal FOMO, and yes, there is something wrong with FOMO.
     
  6. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    If we were doing what I wish, I wouldn't have started this thread.

    I'm perfectly content with the current status quo, but a number of folks have expressed an interest in closing down threads when they become too unwieldy, or seem to have gone too far off topic.

    If that's what most everyone wants, then my feeling is that's probably something we should try to do.
     
  7. weaverr

    weaverr Zealot (729) Jun 10, 2008 California

    The Pacific forum certainly got out of hand in the past with how many brewer-specific threads they had going and how old they were. It seems like the younger beer scene in LA is driving a lot of special can releases and events that keep those threads updating frequently.

    I agree that monthly or even quarterly threads in the PNW forum seems excessive. Unless some heavy derailment happens, the brewery threads simply don't move that quickly. Maybe a yearly brewery thread? "Great Notion 2018" for example?
     
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  8. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,663) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    Its just when certain threads go completely off the rails and devolve into some pre-pubescent internet argument forum, its not a good look. If Im visiting the Block 15 thread, im hoping to find some nugget of useful information about the brewery without combing through 5 pages of trash.
     
  9. ewendel

    ewendel Crusader (476) Feb 12, 2008 Washington
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    Personally, I prefer the T-a-l-k-B-e-e-r model, where threads essentially stay open indefinitely (i.e., there's one Hill Farmstead thread, and that's where HF-related content primarily gets posted). I find multiple threads per brewery, based on time, quite annoying in terms of usability, especially when it comes to basic search functionality. Kinda breaks it...

    I'm more in favor of people staying on-topic, generally speaking, and if things drift too far off-topic, then an admin can reign things in, hopefully.
     
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  10. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,954) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    I also don't see how nuking a thread and starting over helps matters. People who like to be antagonistic are still going to be antagonistic regardless.
     
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  11. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2005 Oregon

    John, since you're the one who'll probably have to put in most of the work, consider which is of these options is a bigger pain in your ass:
    • Locking a thread and starting a new one each month
    • Keeping these legacy threads active but periodically going through and deleting the 2-3 pages of off topic bullshit that spawns within them.

    Personally, I like keeping the old ones alive because it's kind of fun to go back and look at the beginnings of the Fremont/GN/Ruben's type threads, but I'm A OK with either option.
     
  12. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    As mentioned upthread, I don't think monthly or quarterly would be needed, maybe every 12-18 months.
     
  13. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Me too. Completely agree.

    I tend to agree with @distantmantra observations as well (because that's exactly what I've seen in other regional forum threads).

    But of course I'll go along with whatever most people seem to want.
     
  14. ExVashonGujy

    ExVashonGujy Pooh-Bah (2,114) Mar 7, 2013 Washington
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    I'm wondering if there would ever be a way to attract the trolls to a thread that would segregate them. Something like "Why Portland and Seattle breweries are overrated." Then those folks who agree with that could go there and pile on their opinions. The rest of us could read the threads about Great Notion or Fremont or Holy Mountain or Visiting Portland without having to plow through the distractions.

    I do not volunteer to start and maintain such a thread.
     
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  15. ballardbeer

    ballardbeer Pundit (779) Nov 10, 2013 Oregon

    let's start a quarterly fresh hop thread and forget to update it in the fall.
     
  16. walterfredo

    walterfredo Savant (1,032) Nov 22, 2011 California
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    As someone who reads both Pacific and NW forums pretty much exclusively, and post mostly in Pacific, I don't understand this need to delete threads. If they "take up a lot of space in the regional front/top forum page" isn't it because people use them a lot? The whole point of a message board.

    Mods here have always been delete crazy, and I just don't understand the logic. What is the benefit of deleting these threads that clearly people use regularly? Why not just let all threads die of natural causes?
     
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  17. walterfredo

    walterfredo Savant (1,032) Nov 22, 2011 California
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    ...and by deleting I mean "closing down" or locking, or whatever you chose to call it.
     
  18. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Have you been following the Grape Lotion thread the last few weeks? That's what inspired this conversation.
     
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  19. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,663) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    hehe. divide and conquer..... i like it. "why Portland haze isnt juice whalez enough" or "how many cities now make better haze than Portland? 50? 200? "
     
  20. sharpski

    sharpski Grand Pooh-Bah (3,100) Oct 11, 2010 Oregon
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    Given how few members produce the vast majority of comments I’d prefer to avoid, the Ignore function has worked really well for me.
     
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