Persica blend 1 & 2 thoughts

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  1. dhbiker0889

    dhbiker0889 Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2012 Colorado

    Recently tried both of the blends of Persica that were released and was curious about some other peoples opinions on them. After reading some of the recent hads posted it looked like there was some disappointment from some people. I had very high expectations from them ( as I always do from crooked stave) and enjoyed them both. By no means my favorite cellar reserve release this year but just looking for a few other opinions.
     
  2. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    To me #1 is closer in flavor to the one from last year, but the peach notes definitely aren't as strong. The "gamey" brett character is a little stronger, though.
    I love #2 and think it has a bready sweetness that's unlike most other sour beers. It's rich and the fruit kicks in a little with the finish, but it's not too strong.
    It'll be interesting to see what becomes of both with a little time.
    Last year's Persica was one for the ages and neither seems to be the same beer that one was, but I still adore blend #2 nearly as much.

    In terms of favorites, I still think Cherry BA Origins takes the cake.
     
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  3. csano

    csano Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2010 Washington
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    Blend 1 is the WWBO base, right?
     
  4. beatenbyjacks

    beatenbyjacks Savant (1,151) Apr 17, 2011 Colorado

    Is Cherry BA Origins your favorite? Still waiting to crack one of mine.
     
  5. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    I'm not sure. I'm sure there are others here who do.

    Yup. It's my favorite CS beer to date, even over last year's Persica. The Raspberry Origins is also wonderful. For that matter, I love all of the Origins beers. I think they could probably use that base with almost anything and I'd love it. The Cherry BA is definitely my fave, though.
     
  6. dhbiker0889

    dhbiker0889 Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2012 Colorado

    I would have to agree that the Cherry was my favorite from this years release. Having not had last years Persica I was just curious to hear from others who had.
     
  7. 4DAloveofSTOUT

    4DAloveofSTOUT Grand Pooh-Bah (4,064) Nov 28, 2008 Illinois
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    I have heard about a heavy butter flavor in both blend 1 and blend 2. I have not tried either bottle, so its speculation for me at this time. Anyone have this experiences with a buttery flavor in blend 1 or blend 2 of Persica?
     
  8. imperialbeerdude

    imperialbeerdude Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2012 Colorado

    What's it take to land a batch one or something like Walezblood? I have some Wulver and Black Tuesday and a Hunahpu coming in. Would any of those be able to score a bottle?
     
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  9. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    I thought blend 2 was super bready...but not buttery. I know some palates have overlap with those characteristics. Not sure if this beer was brewed at Prost, but that bready character is usually something that I'd associate with decocion mashed German beers...not a sour brett-based beer.
     
  10. ig88b

    ig88b Crusader (482) Jun 18, 2009 Missouri
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    I still haven't had any, but am going to Denver this weekend to pick up my haul. I hope it's not buttery.

    I wouldn't let my last bottle of Batch 1 go for that, but that's just me.
     
  11. 4DAloveofSTOUT

    4DAloveofSTOUT Grand Pooh-Bah (4,064) Nov 28, 2008 Illinois
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    Thats great news to hear!
     
  12. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    They sold Batch One in the tasting room for a while, so there should be a few around...however because it is AMAZING, it's not an easy trade to make :stuck_out_tongue: I wish I still had one.
     
  13. bird22

    bird22 Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2011 California

    We opened 2 of each blend (from different memberships) last Saturday and everyone got tons of diacetyl from both, with Batch 2 being really bad. We ended up drain pouring half a bottle of Blend 2. Picked some up in L'Brett D'Or as well. Hopefully it is just bottle variation, or that it smooths out in the bottle over the next couple weeks.
     
  14. tylerzombie

    tylerzombie Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2011 Colorado

    Interesting - I had the same thing happen with a bottle of St. Bretta Fall this past weekend. It was like a buttered popcorn Jelly Belly. It had been a long time since I had to drain pour, but man, I just could not finish that beast. Hopefully this isn't a trend.
     
  15. mklever42

    mklever42 Initiate (0) Apr 28, 2012 Colorado

    Yes. Both blends in 4 different bottles. The most disappointing beer I have ever had. I couldn't finish the bottle. Down the drain it went.
     
  16. FishPondManager

    FishPondManager Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2012 Colorado

    Peach Whiskey Surette had some diacetyl type buttery flavors when first released, but it's all but gone now.

    Every CS beer gets better with age, IMO.

    I didn't get any in the new Persica. Agree with @Domingo 's assessment of blend 2. Blend 1 is more tart and has a better nose. Blend 2 has a more earthy peach characteristic.
     
  17. FishPondManager

    FishPondManager Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2012 Colorado

    It's going to be tough to pry away a batch one from anybody. That and Bourbon Cherry Origins are the best beers CS has ever bottled, IMO. I like both even more that batch 1 Persica.
     
  18. imperialbeerdude

    imperialbeerdude Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2012 Colorado

    wowzers
     
  19. guyforget

    guyforget Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2009 Colorado

    im still taking razz dark origins over cherry by a hair, but only a hair. razz dark is probably my favorite CS beer ever bottled, but thats also hard to say.

    persica blend 1 and l'brett d'or release 1 and 2 are all diacetyl bombs on my palate. cracked a d'or batch 1 to compare to batch 2 after the members party and it hadnt smoothed out the butter yet, just shy of a year since purchase.

    i would agree that given persica's reputation that blend 1 in particular is a huge disappointment and that blend 2 is in the lower tier of this years releases, though better than blend 1.

    i would reconsider my membership in 2015 if disappointments like this continue through the significant-price-increase of 2014 and im a pretty big CS fanboy, preaching their gospel most places i go and to all with whom i drink.
     
  20. omgeezo

    omgeezo Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2013 Colorado

    The two bottles of blend 1 Ive had have been drastically different. The second bottle opened was poured down the drain. Butter from start to finish
     
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