Phoenix's first farmhouse brewery

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  1. bigbelcher

    bigbelcher Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2003 Arizona

    #1 bigbelcher, May 18, 2012
  2. bigbelcher

    bigbelcher Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2003 Arizona

    In all fairness I should point out that they were re-inspected this week and passed but still that report was pretty nasty. Won't see me there anytime soon.
     
    #2 bigbelcher, May 19, 2012
  3. 3frog

    3frog Initiate (0) May 13, 2006 Arizona

    Too bad they made them get rid of the cobwebs...
     
    #3 3frog, May 19, 2012
  4. Show

    Show Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2011 Texas

    ?
     
    #4 Show, May 19, 2012
  5. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
    Pooh-Bah

    Link didn't work for me.

    Is that Old World brewery? Don't get me started.... :angry:
     
    #5 yemenmocha, May 19, 2012
  6. bigbelcher

    bigbelcher Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2003 Arizona

    Since the link didn't work: Old World Brewery Inspection Report-
    Inspection Comments
    This establishment failed to meet minimum standards to qualify for a permit, The following items must be corrected in order to obtain a permit. 1. Noted broken glass panels at the southwest corner of the building in two locations. Replace. 2. Remove the cob webs at the entrance way. 3. Clean the pet hair from the entrance way. 4. Provide coving at the bar in a few locations where it is missing. 5. The walk in cooler is missing coving from the base of the walls in most areas. Provide metal coving inside of the walk in cooler. 6. Clean and remove the clutter from behind the building. All piled up pallets and debris provide harborage to rodents and insects. 7. Clean the space behind the large walk in cooler and the window sills. 8. Flash off the top of the large roll up door on the north side of the building. A large gap exists which allows for insects/flies to enter. 9. Rodent/mouse feces found on the floor and shelving at the storage area used for grains. Remove the product from the shelves and clean and sanitize all shelving and floor areas in this location. 10. The mop sink located outside of the back is not connected to the sewer and drains onto the floor and the sink itself only has cold water. Provide a sewer connection to this sink and provide hot and cold water. Also, secure the sink to be more stable. 11. The hand washing sink at the front by the taps is not connected to the sewer and it drains to the dirt lot on the north side of the building. This sink must connect to the sewer. 12. Dogs are living in the back lot of the building and dog feces was observed outside. This attracts insects and excess flies were noted. Maintaining this area clean of excrement will reduce the fly issues. 13. Noted beverage brewing parts and equipment submerged in liquid inside of buckets that contained caustic and strong chemicals. Obtain white food grade containers for the purpose of cleaning parts/equipment. 14. Some FRP material is coming loose from the southwest corner of the brewing area and needs to be re-attached. Also, smooth the finish on the south door. 15. The three vat sink leaks on the base of one of the basins. Repair. 16. The men’s restroom wall on one side is rough brick. Paint or use FRP to provide a smooth cleanable surface. 17. Noted several missing tiles in the ladies room near the entrance and a rough floor threshold. Repair both areas to be smooth and easily cleanable. R.S. #950 was present at the time of this inspection
     
    #6 bigbelcher, May 19, 2012
  7. bennetj17

    bennetj17 Pooh-Bah (1,790) Oct 30, 2005 Arizona
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    Oh my god, is that for real? I have never drank anything from that brewery and now I never will.
     
    #7 bennetj17, May 19, 2012
  8. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    Their stuff is horrible, IMO. Waste of your money. Watery, flavorless. Look at reviews here and on RB. Again, another reason to be very, very cautious when someone is promoting "drink local". Four Peaks, yes. Old World, no.
     
    #8 yemenmocha, May 19, 2012
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  9. Worldset

    Worldset Initiate (0) May 20, 2012 Canada (SK)

    Beer + dog feces + insects + rodents... Yikes!!!
     
    #9 Worldset, May 20, 2012
  10. Worldset

    Worldset Initiate (0) May 20, 2012 Canada (SK)

    Never heard of these guys, but I just checked out their facebook page... they mention a big new deal with Safeway, new distributors in California, etc.

    Can't be that bad, right?
     
    #10 Worldset, May 20, 2012
  11. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
    Pooh-Bah

    #11 yemenmocha, May 20, 2012
  12. blatherbeard

    blatherbeard Initiate (0) Sep 30, 2007 Texas

    If you only knew what goes into sausages, and i dont mean lips and assholes.
     
    #12 blatherbeard, May 20, 2012
  13. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    Actually I've seen those videos. I don't eat them. :flushed:
     
    #13 yemenmocha, May 20, 2012
  14. Worldset

    Worldset Initiate (0) May 20, 2012 Canada (SK)

    #14 Worldset, May 22, 2012
  15. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    "support local" movement umbrella. It has shelf space for that reason, and there's enough people buying it at least once. Not sure who, if anyone, is a repeat buyer of their pricey bombers.
     
    #15 yemenmocha, May 22, 2012
  16. Jefeipa

    Jefeipa Initiate (0) May 6, 2009 Arizona

    I'm all about supporting local but there beer is crap.
     
    #16 Jefeipa, May 22, 2012
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  17. Worldset

    Worldset Initiate (0) May 20, 2012 Canada (SK)

    interesting theory.

    local = automatic shelf space = a lot of people willing to try it at least once

    however what you're essentially saying is it doesn't matter how bad a beer is, how bad their reviews are, how much rodent feces their location has... there are enough beer consumers who blindly support anything billed as 'local' regardless so it's a can't-lose business.

    again, it just doesn't add up. there is something missing to the riddle.

    there is a lot of competition even in the 'local' category.
     
    #17 Worldset, May 24, 2012
  18. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    Actually not at all. Those large bombers of local beers move slowly, regardless of which local brewery. It's a miracle that they have the shelf space for them in the first place... but they do. Every craft beer enthusiast I've known will almost always try new local stuff at least once, so it's not at all odd to think that this accounts for a slow movement of that product in the heavily promoted "buy local" stuff.

    And yes people do buy beer that is mediocre and support those breweries. I think it's absurd to suppose that craft beer drinkers are largely educated, discerning palates who check reviews before buying something. They don't, most of them at least. There's also the large tourism industry six months of the year and people like to try the local stuff, without knowning anything about it.

    I've chatted with one of the beer people at Whole Foods in Scottsdale and they have the local section of taps even though they don't sell as well as the other 24 or so. I asked why, and the reply was because of the buy local theme that is so important at WF.

    Buying local is one thing if you live in the San Diego area, or similar. But here it amounts to a sort of affirmative action for most of the local breweries.
     
    #18 yemenmocha, May 25, 2012
  19. H0rnedFr0gs

    H0rnedFr0gs Initiate (0) Mar 12, 2012 Texas

    Sounds like they really took the "farmhouse" appeal a bit too literally.
     
    #19 H0rnedFr0gs, May 25, 2012
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  20. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (5,822) Oct 14, 2009 Michigan
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    ISO: Rodent feces coffee imperial stout.
     
    #20 elNopalero, May 25, 2012
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