Pilsners!

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  1. Steeeve

    Steeeve Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I have always liked Braumeister Pils a lot more than Prima. I find it a lot more drinkable. Prima has this odd, biting bitterness that tastes like grass clippings. Plus they change up the hops from time to time. Shame it's only on draft.
     
  2. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    Well I've never really taken notes on it and I haven't had enough Landbiers to make a general characterization about them as a style. Distelhäuser's is pretty sweet and after one or two 500 ml steins it's kind of enough. Their own website defines it as "lightly sweet*" which I think is underselling it a bit.

    * - it also proudly says something to the effect of, "and not only for women!" which I try not to take personally.

    (auf Deutsch: http://www.distelhaeuser.de/Distelhaeuser-Landbier.60.0.html)
     
  3. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Still good beer! Though I haven't had the Denver Beer brew.
     
  4. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Heh -- sounds like they're talking about Radler or Diesel. :wink:

    Well, in case you've never been lucky enough to try it, the more I think about the NG 2 Women the more I think Landbier is definitely what they were trying to duplicate. It doesn't fit squarely into any category, sort of fresh Helles-like in flavor, with the color of an amber Märzen. Sweetish, bready, mildly bitter in its aftertaste.

    I've heard folks say that the first incarnation, before it became a regular in the NG lineup, was more rich and bigger in flavor -- would have liked to have tried it, but then I might not like the 2 Women as much.
     
  5. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    I will give it a shot when I am back in the States. I remembered Mönchshof makes a Landbier as well.

    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/412/32517

    Looks like this and Distelhäuser are both similar to Exports in style? I have no idea what qualifies them as Landbiers. Even skimming through the reviews it appears they are not unfiltered, which I would have guessed as the local restaurant always serves them in an earthenware stein.
     
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Based upon the ‘definition’ from the German Beer Institute is seems that Landbier is not a strict style:

    “LANDBIER

    Pronunciation guide for English-speakers:

    "lunt-beer" (pronounce the "a" and "d" in "land" like the "u" and "t" in "but")

    Definition:

    Literally "country beer," Landbier is a general term denoting a simple everyday session or quaffing brew. As an easy-drinking beer, it is usually not too hoppy. Its other characteristics, however, are fairly undefined. A Landbier is usually golden-yellow, but it may also be dark; it may be filtered like a Pils or unfiltered like a Kellerbier, and its alcohol by volume level may range between 4.8% and 5.3%. For many breweries, the term Landbier has more to do with branding a particular line of beer than with brewing a beer according to a style definition. Landbiers are made throughout Germany.”

    Another bready beer you might like is Southampton Keller Pils. Below is a ‘description’ I generated for a beermail to somebody:

    “So, I had my first 2012 version Southampton Keller Pils last night. It is very golden in color like a Pilsner (similar to the 2010 version). It has a subtle but noticeable hop aroma along with a grainy/bready aroma. The taste is grainy/bready with some hop flavor as well. This year’s version is the ‘best’ Keller Pils from a balance and integration of malts and hops. From my perspective this could very well be the ‘poster child’ for what a Keller Pils should be.

    Since I am a big fan of hoppy Pilsners, my personal favorite was the 2010 version but if I were to homebrew a Keller Pils to style I would very much like to emulate the 2012 version.”

    Cheers!
     
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  7. crossovert

    crossovert Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2009 Illinois

    Bought some Frankenmuth pilsener this week, it was cheap and was better than most american examples i thought
     
  8. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Just keep in mind that New Glarus beers are only available in Wisconsin -- set up a trade now!

    I saw it marked as an "export" as well, but maybe that's just a taxation label?
     
  9. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Don't forget the caveat on the German Beer Institute -- must weed through fact and fiction to find the answers! :wink:
     
  10. terrapinfan88

    terrapinfan88 Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2009 Virginia

    Weihenstephaner!
     
  11. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    The new, fresh(er) Pilsner Urquell I had last night was pretty darned good. Not really what they are promising (an experience identical to drinking it in the Czech Republic), but very good nonetheless.
     
  12. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Where does that say it was brewed? I think their packaged stuff is contract brewed. The one I had in Frankenmuth was one of the worst examples I have had anywhere. Banana aroma, come on!
     
  13. klaybie

    klaybie Zealot (633) Nov 15, 2009 Illinois

    Oh, I'm very excited to try the "fresh(er)" Pilsner Urquell, to steal your term. I've never had it in the Czech Republic but I know what the bottles we get over here taste like. I've had it on tap and I'll say it was one of the best pilsners I've had. No shame.
     
  14. Manoftyr

    Manoftyr Initiate (0) May 6, 2009 New York

    This year's release of Southampton Keller Pils is exceptional, I think they used Saaz this year as it's always single hopped with a different hop variety, and Sixpoint's The Crisp is among my favorite pilseners period.
     
  15. crossovert

    crossovert Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2009 Illinois

    Had a Wright Pils on tap today, diacetyl city, fail.
     
  16. crossovert

    crossovert Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2009 Illinois

    says it is brewed by point, but it is marginally better than any other point products, maybe they brewed it after brewing point special or something and not some deranged hefeweizen. The frankenmuth pils has an assertive hop character, not a good malt character or mouthfeel but it made up for it with the nice ample bitterness.
     
  17. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Following the Bitburger* model, then. (*that would be the Bitburger of the last 5 years, previously it had a bit more malt character). I think I'd go for that if the situation was right.

    I've been drinking Troegs Sunshine Pils exclusively (for Pilsners) since it was released this year; they've pretty much got it dialed in in terms of character and balance. It's great to have a beer like that so readily available around here.
     
  18. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Hah -- glad I don't have your over-sensitive palate. You must loath Urquell.
     
  19. crossovert

    crossovert Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2009 Illinois

    no i had one the other night and it was fine.
     
  20. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Hard to believe -- I can almost always pick up that light diacetyl in Urquell, maybe just the cans (which I usually buy in singles) because it's a bit less compromised.

    I tried the Wright back in June, with a best-by date of 8/27, and no diacetyl at all.
     
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