Pine Pine Pine

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  1. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    *I apologize in advance for any embarrassing newbie remarks/questions*

    I'm planning on creating a 5gal DME batch of a nice American IPA. I absolutely adore pine-forward ales with a super clean and dry malt presence. I know the likes of Chinook, Mosaic, and Simcoe all have elements of pine in them, but their flavors and aromas are ever so different! Any suggestions on a recipe to create a well-balanced, very piney and floral ale, but still retaining some gentle, bright lemon/lime/underripe grapefruit elements? Also, some tips on DME additions would be greatly appreciated too! (I'd like to use some Briess Golden Light as well as some Pilsen for crispness).
     
    #1 deleted_user_1007501, May 24, 2016
  2. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    I like Chinook/Simcoe/Columbus as a blend for piney/grapefruity IPAs
     
    #2 MrOH, May 25, 2016
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  3. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    #3 inchrisin, May 25, 2016
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  4. AJKing

    AJKing Initiate (0) Jun 27, 2015 California

    Pine is actually more elusive than I thought at first, but a combo that I've come to like is Chinook/Simcoe/Kohatu/Vic Secret. Combines pine and tropical.
     
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  5. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Chinook centennial and columbus.
     
    #5 SFACRKnight, May 25, 2016
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    One of my favorite IPAs that I brew is a Simcoe/Amarillo IPA. The Simcoe provides pine aroma/flavor while Amarillo provides citrus aroma/flavor. These two hops play very well together.

    Cheers!
     
    #6 JackHorzempa, May 25, 2016
  7. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I get blue cheese from simcoe for some reason.
     
    #7 SFACRKnight, May 25, 2016
  8. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    I have used Simcoe extensively lately and in large amounts... I don't get much pine from it honestly. A bit more on the dank side, I suppose.

    For my next IPA to be brewed next week I am trying out Chinook as the dominant hop, along with Columbus, Mosaic and Citra. To give an idea, I think I am using around 4oz Chinook, 2oz Mosaic, 1.5oz Citra and 1.5oz Columbus if I recall correctly between bittering/flavor/aroma. Hoping I can get intense pine this way. I don't get pine from Mosaic (far from it), usually just intense fruit character. Columbus for it's dank quality. In the end, hoping for a piney/dank forward beer with accents of that citrus/fruit from the mosaic/citra.

    Southern Cross sounds like an interesting hop that could be worth trying alongside Chinook for a very piney beer...
     
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  9. Lingenbrau

    Lingenbrau Grand Pooh-Bah (4,853) Apr 9, 2011 Oregon
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  10. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Des chutes pine drops uses chinook and equinox
     
    #10 SFACRKnight, May 25, 2016
  11. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    It's my favorite bittering hop, but anyone ever use Warrior for flavor or aroma? I understand it's very high alpha, but can produce some nice pine resin and very herbal notes.
     
    #11 deleted_user_1007501, May 26, 2016
  12. HopsCraftHouse

    HopsCraftHouse Aspirant (298) Mar 18, 2016 New York

    I am a huge fan of the piney hops as well. I've found that using a combination of Simcoe, Amarillo, and Nugget really gives it that pine flavor that I'm looking for with the citrus aromas. I have subbed out the Simcoe for Chinook and it works well. Also I tend to dry hope with Simcoe/Chinook, and Amarillo for the added floral notes.
     
    #12 HopsCraftHouse, May 28, 2016
  13. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    Very helpful information fellas! Thank you all!

    On a sidenote, this would be my first brew using DME. According to many homebrewers (and according to my last dozen batches), LME is a gamble in terms of freshness, and tricky to not get a super toasted malt-forward beer out of it. I hear DME is much more user friendly, and by initially using 1/4 to 1/3 of the total DME at the beginning of the boil, then dumping in the rest near flameout produces a brightly-colored, more crisp and clean flavor.

    I'm intending to use equal parts Briess Pilsen and Golden light.

    Any specific suggestions to create a bright, crisp, and clean canvas for hops to shine upon with said DME?
     
    #13 deleted_user_1007501, May 29, 2016
  14. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    Not sure if anyone mentioned summit, but it's very piney. I use summit chinook simcoe and ahtanum in a hoppy black ale in the winter and it's super piney
     
    #14 chavinparty, Jun 1, 2016
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