Placing beer on its side...

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by popopine, Jul 18, 2014.

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  1. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Nope, not after bottling. :-)
     
  2. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    They also have no other way to store them between bottling and shipping.
     
  3. cyrushire

    cyrushire Initiate (0) May 25, 2012 Florida

    I just saw that they've started cellaring in a huge bomb shelter. It's like 8 times their current compacity.
     
  4. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    Compacity?
     
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  5. Knobs303

    Knobs303 Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2013 Colorado

    It is Recommended for wine. Six months down & six months up, as I have always heard it.
     
  6. cyrushire

    cyrushire Initiate (0) May 25, 2012 Florida

    no spell good for nite time.
     
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  7. michman

    michman Pundit (751) Oct 14, 2005 Illinois

    beer doesnt last that long in my fridge for that to be a problem!
     
  8. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    True, but it allows me to put them on a shelf where there isn't room for the bottle to stand upright.
     
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  9. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    I store a lot of my "everyday" beers on their side in a mini fridge and I've noticed that it seems to make beers of all sorts gush more often than storing them vertically.
     
  10. Scott_Anderson_

    Scott_Anderson_ Initiate (0) Jul 6, 2014 Tennessee

    So should corked beers be stored vertically or horizontally? Still seems to be some confusion about this...
     
  11. thewrongtone

    thewrongtone Zealot (743) Oct 15, 2006 Arkansas

    Not sure about long term storage, but most bottle conditioned beer I've seen recommends refrigerating upright for at least 24 hours before serving to allow sediment to settle.

    I would hypothesize that beer on its side would allow more of the beer's surface area to be exposed to any oxygen in the bottle. I have no data to back that up, whatsoever. In fact, the Brownian motion of the beer would eventually allow every particle and molecule of the beer to be exposed to any gas in the bottle eventually, regardless of orientation.
     
  12. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    Depends on the cork. Beers with Champagne corks (just need a nudge and they'll pop out) should be stored vertically like all other beers, shrinkage is a non-issue due to the amount of internal pressure, oxygen just won't get in.

    Beers corked like normal wine, such as Cantillons, should be stored horizontally for long stretches for the same reason as wine, cork shrinkage and the introduction of oxygen would be much more detrimental than the larger area of air/beer contact that you get from storage on its side compared with vertical. Ideally, the bottle will then be moved to vertical storage for a few days or a week or two prior to being opened to allow the sediment to settle on the bottom of the bottle.

    Uncorked beers (or Champagne-corked beers) should be stored vertically to minimize the amount of surface area the 'bubble' has with the beer, which will oxidize it faster the larger this area is, if the bubble is in the neck it should be very small, on the side of the bottle much larger. There is a school of thought that bottle conditioned beers should be stored on their side to increase the amount of area of yeast/beer contact, but personally I'd think that the increased air/beer contact will be more detrimental than the increased yeast/beer contact will be helpful.
     
  13. reaganrvltn

    reaganrvltn Pundit (817) May 24, 2014 Georgia

    I thought this was recommended for beers with corks not beers with caps. Someone correct me if I am wrong
     
  14. BMBCLT

    BMBCLT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,427) May 9, 2014 South Carolina
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    It's bad. The only beers that you should keep on their side are Lambics.
     
  15. pjvie

    pjvie Initiate (0) May 30, 2014 Oregon

    I would be thrilled if someone could take a position and give good evidence for it. Enough speculation; I want data!
     
  16. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Yeah, that’s right. There's a blog out there with lots of cool photos. Apparently van Roy is investing something like about 3000 bottles a year from the brewery's annual output in a long term cellaring/storage project with the coopration of the city of Brussels (the city owns the bomb shelter). Sounds to me like a great opportunity to increase the supply of pre-aged bottles and keep the brewery solvent in the future. He is storing the bottles in a stack on their sides just as he does at the brewery. Guess he thinks that’s the best way to age the beers.
     
  17. Life-Love-Beer

    Life-Love-Beer Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2014 Texas

  18. jRocco2021

    jRocco2021 Savant (1,083) Mar 13, 2010 Wisconsin

  19. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    Correct. A bottle stored vertically will have less of its liquid surface area exposed to air than if it is stored horizontally. There is a time factor, but in reasonably speaking, horizontal, bad.

    However, vertically stored corked product will dry out and ruin the contents eventually, so:

    Corked - lay flat (for sure!)
    Bottled - vertical ok
     
  20. FoamInnovation

    FoamInnovation Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2013 Washington

    The gas in sealed beer bottles is almost exclusively CO2, which does little damage long term to the beer (it is carbonated with the stuff). @TrojanRB correctly points out that a dry cork will fail, however. Wine has to be laid down for the same reason. Store you beer at an angle and give it a 180 turn occasionally.
     
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